Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Alrighty. Alrighty, everybody, we are back. This is Argue this with Alex the Truck and Trunnion.
[00:00:08] Speaker B: Yo.
[00:00:11] Speaker A: And you know, this week we're gonna talk about ICE and the food stamps and the government shutdown and the loss of all these, you know, cool government handouts that we, you know, do. But we're gonna, you know, start off with ICE and you know, not. Not like the customs Enforcement, just like the immigration. Like they should just be like, you know, called like police officers.
But, you know, I for one, I will state.
[00:00:45] Speaker B: Wait, I'm confused. I stands for the enforcement.
[00:00:51] Speaker A: Motherfucker. No, you do not.
Like, I, like, I can see you have like some of the same, you know, here I'll put out. You know what I believe? I believe I should go after, you know, illegal immigrants that are here committing crimes. If you are here, you know, coming into this country to destroy it from the inside out.
You know, like coming in, you know, trying to, you know, put propaganda about how your country is so much better and how America sucks and trying to, you know, put fucking thoughts into Americans heads back. Oh, yeah, America is so fucking racist and evil and wrong and, you know, all that nonsense, you know, or you're out here selling drugs or, you know, killing people or doing, you know, evil fucking things like throwing Molotov cocktails on Jewish people, then yes, you should be fucking picked the fuck up, thrown in a catapult and shot back to your country. Get the out now if you want to come to America and, you know, build a better life, because let's face it, America is pretty great, you know, and a lot of people want to be here because there is still the American dream.
And I've been around the world and I've seen a lot of that customer service and a lot of that work ethic from around the world.
I want them here.
I want them here. And I want to, you know, send a lot of the people the lazy pieces of here, send them on a catapult and, you know, trade them. I'll be like, hey, yeah, I'll trade you, you know, 10 of these guys for like one of your guys. And they're like, oh, good deal. Oh, this is a horrible deal. And they get a bunch of like lazy people that are like, I'm gonna do tick tock dances and become famous.
And it's like, when have you had a job? Oh, I never had a job. It's like, you're 42. It's like, yeah, I get it.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: Is it that theme? Never mind. Finish. Continue.
[00:02:50] Speaker A: And yeah, so like and then, you know, give amnesty, at least for those, you know, people, and, like, give them, like, an H1B visa, you know, to continue working here in the United States. If, you know, they kept their nose clean and you're doing a good job. You know, it's like, oh, dude, you're, you know, you're out here illegally, but here's a little bit of amnesty for you because you are, you know, contributing to society, and if you want to, you know, continue and then your, you know, job can, you know, sponsor you, get a green card, and boom. Citizenship. It's awesome. I love that.
You're up.
[00:03:27] Speaker B: All right, so first you.
I don't even know where to start because you said so many different things.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: I don't even know how to, like, what is your thoughts and feelings on ice?
[00:03:46] Speaker B: Well, here's my thing, though. You're like, if they're breaking the law, we should arrest them and ship them out. That's what the police are for. So we don't need ICE for that.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: Well, the police can't kick anybody out of the country. They don't have that power. They have the power to arrest someone and keep them locally. They cannot extradite anybody.
[00:04:14] Speaker B: FBI.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, like, you have to, like, get, like, other.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: We already have the. The structures for that. We don't need another completely separate Gestapo department for it, so.
[00:04:28] Speaker A: But then Vanilla Ice's song is, like, pointless that then, because, like, you know, they can be, like, rolling up and back. Ice, Ice, baby Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom Ice, ice, baby yeah. I'm just like, oh, ICE is coming.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: When was ICE formed?
[00:04:50] Speaker A: This is a good question. And this is why I'm glad I have the Internet here.
When was Immigration Customs enforcement formed?
2003.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: So Ice Baby couldn't even be referenced.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: I'm sure, like, they heard the song and they're like, oh, no, no.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: I just want to point it.
[00:05:20] Speaker A: If I was to answer that out of my ass, like, just out of, like, you know, like, just, like, instinct, like, without, like, looking it up, without having the Internet of, like, 1950, probably.
[00:05:34] Speaker B: Anyways, so ICE is not even that long of established, like, branch of the.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: Like, I mean, it's a department of the Homeland Security, and, like, that's really what it is.
But, yeah, I mean, like, there's always been, like, border agents and stuff like that.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: I know there has been. So we didn't need ice, so we could abolish ice, but. But that's a hot take. So.
[00:05:58] Speaker A: Yeah. No, there's so many people. So many people. I hear say, fuck ice, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[00:06:03] Speaker B: I'm not saying fuck ice. I'm just saying ICE was for the statement that you just said the reasons you listed and the reasons that most people listed.
ICE doesn't need to be because we already have those structures in place.
[00:06:19] Speaker A: Yeah, but the border people can't, you know, spray too far from the border. Like.
[00:06:23] Speaker B: I understand.
That's why we could do several things. We could either a.
[00:06:30] Speaker A: Shoot them in the head. That's right. No, we could get those criminals and just put them on a wall. Bang, bang, bang, bang.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: What I would not agree with. And give the police, FBI, and the border agents more money. Not ice, but border agents more money.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: And.
[00:06:48] Speaker B: And then we could go ahead and have the police arrest him, then transfer him to the FBI to transfer him to the border to then transfer them out of the country. We don't need ICE for any of that.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Yeah, but police are fucking useless. Like, they, you know, I'm sure you know this and have ran.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Abolish the police. If you say police are useless. Hold up, let's talk about this.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: I think police is useless. What?
[00:07:15] Speaker B: So if police do not provide any use to our society or to our city, then why are we funding them? So much money, like, what's the point of that? Isn't that a waste then?
[00:07:27] Speaker A: If they're using it absolutely is. Yeah. Police are there for cleanup. You know, if someone was to be breaking into my house, you know, kicking down my fucking front door, and I was to call 91 1-BEG. Hello, police? Yeah, someone's kicking down my front door and I think they have a gun.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: So you're anti police?
[00:07:44] Speaker A: I'm not anti police.
You know, I. I love the police because I have now, I'm not in my, you know, teens and twenties where I didn't have anything. I'm like, the police. I was just walking with a beer. They didn't have to give me a open, you know, container ticket them.
But, you know, like, if. If I call the police, they're like, okay, yeah, we'll be there in like 15.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: So you at least acknowledge that, like, the more that you actually get in a capitalist society, the more you reinforce the capitalist structures of.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. The. The more that I have, the more I want a security, you know, to protect that shit that I have, you know, namely guns. I have guns to be able to protect, you know, my property from, you know, people that want to come in and steal my property.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: I don't think property theft should equate to human life. But that's a different.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: Well, I'm not shooting them. It's just a deterrent.
If, you know, you're not a criminal.
[00:08:53] Speaker B: Would you hesitate to shoot?
[00:08:55] Speaker A: Yes, I would. You know, I don't want to fucking shoot them because I pay a lot of money for a lawyer. And guess what? If you shoot somebody, here's something that they will not tell you. You're going to jail. You're going to jail. Paperwork. You know what?
[00:09:09] Speaker B: Or is it the jail like the short jail term?
[00:09:12] Speaker A: You know, it is not just a short jail time. It could be, you know, fucking couple weeks in jail before they can get you out. You know, pretty much if you kill someone, you are going to be charged with murder. That is how that is going to happen. You're going to be put in cuffs and you're going to be charged with murder because you did that. Now your defense is self defense.
Someone was breaking into my house, you know, looking to either kill me or my wife. I was in fear for, you know, imminent harm. And, you know, I'm not a lawyer. I'm not your lawyer, nothing.
But, you know, then I can use that defense to, you know, get a, you know, you know, not guilty, you know, verdict and, you know, go home. But at the end of the day, it's going to still cost a bunch of money and a bunch of my goddamn time.
I'd rather you just fucking leave.
I'd rather me just, you know, pull out a Glock on you, you know, pull out any of my weapons on you and beg. Okay. You know, and you're like, you win. I'm leaving. I'm off. I don't want that smoke. And most people will fucking see the guns and, you know, turn the around and leave.
Good.
I don't like, I hope that I never have to use any of my guns to take a human life.
Like, I'm not one of those cowboys are like, ho, ho, ho, ho. Yeah, I hope someone breaks in my house so I could shoot them. No, I enjoy taking my guns out to the range and shooting them at paper.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: That's fair.
[00:10:40] Speaker A: That's what I like to do.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: So what do you think of that one lady, the older lady who.
The neighbor who shot her other neighbor through the door and killed her. And she is arrested and I think she got found guilty of second degree murder.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: Yes, of course you will.
You know, if they're breaking down the door, that's one thing. If they've broken down the door, that's another thing. If they're just on the other side of the door shouting threats, you know, hey, guess what you can't do about that. You can call the cops, but if you shoot someone through the door because they're like, I'm gonna chop you up into little pieces. And they're on the other side of a door, you know, they're not actually doing anything. Guess what? Yeah, you're gonna go to prison.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: She did call the police. They were already underway.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: Then you should have just went and.
[00:11:29] Speaker B: Got her gun from her bedroom door room and then went back to the front door and shot the lady through the door.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: Yeah, there's no, there's no lady that's like, oh, no, she's fucking banging on the door.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: They.
Her defense was it's a stand your ground state and that she was the fear for her life.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: Yeah, if she was on the other side of the door, then, yes, that would, that would have held up. Yeah. I would have convicted that lady 100.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: Sorry. You know, I don't even think, like, if I did some shit like that and shot someone through my front door that was just standing there menacingly, you know, I don't even think my lawyers would take my case. They'd be like, dude, go yourself.
And you know, just as a shout out, I use US Law shield heard.
And yeah, I mean, so yeah, if you have a gun, you should, you know, like, that's a responsible thing is like to get some sort of, you know, coverage, you know, to that. If you're like, I'm going to use a gun to defend myself. Yeah, get coverage.
But yeah, don't shoot people through the fucking door, you know, and don't shoot ICE either. Like, stop, you know, with the violence towards ICE like that just, you know, amps that shit up.
That's just like, oh, guess what? Now we have these fucking crazy people. Give us bigger guns, give us bigger tasers.
[00:13:01] Speaker B: I am not stirring the pot. Just asking for definition.
What is your definition of violence towards ice? Are you talking about the sandwich throwing guy? Are you talking.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: No, I'm talking about bricks through their fucking, you know, cars.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: Nope. That's understandable.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: You know, and, you know, doing, you know, like throwing like rocks and fucking bricks at, you know, agents, you know, like, don't. Don't even throw water at them. Like, I see like a lot of people like, throwing water on the agents. Like, okay, it's not like that bad, but I'm like, don't do that.
I'm like, what happens, like, when you're doing like an Overnight thing, and it's like 32. And they're like, oh, you're throwing water at us, and they just throw water at you. Now you have hypothermia, you know, fucking tit for tat. Oh, it was fine for you to do it.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: Are you talking about using a fire hose?
[00:13:55] Speaker A: No, no, no. That, that.
No, I'm talking about, like using like a Super Soaker or something like that.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: There's a lot of difference of stuff with.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Yeah, no, we're not fucking going back to, you know, those days, you know, oh, we just brought out some puppies and, you know, brought out the fire truck. Oh, no. What could happen?
Yeah, no, I'm not talking like that.
But like in Durango, for instance, like, this is, you know, pretty much where all this stems from. There was a pretty big protest in Durango because ICE agents came into town and took a man and his two children.
And he was not a criminal. None of the kids were criminals. They were just going to school and they had an active asylum case.
And so people were, you know, throwing a big old hissy fit about it.
And, you know, in my head, I'm like, there's nothing that, you know, you can do to, you know, make them, you know, big. Oh, well, I guess we'll just leave then.
You know, they're just gonna like, bic, call more backup. Call more backup. You know, you're just gonna get yourself to a five star wanted level in Grand Theft Auto.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: So you're saying that we should not do anything?
[00:15:14] Speaker A: No, you should absolutely not.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: Voice your opinion.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: You can voice your opinion. Absolutely. Come the fuck on out. Voice your opinion. Sing songs and, you know, back. Yeah, we are against this. We do not like this, but do not assault the officers that are just doing their job.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: So.
[00:15:37] Speaker A: And I don't like dox. I'm like, I saw so many people like, who is this guy? Let, like, get his name out there. I want to know his name. I'm like, what would you do with his name?
Like, what is the next logical leap that after you get someone's name.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: Well, hot take. I think that every government employee that wields a gun should be in an open database of their name and stuff.
[00:16:05] Speaker A: Come on out. Irs.
The IRS has guns.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: Now I understand.
[00:16:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's like a new thing.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: I understand and I'm okay with that. If you have a gun, you should be in the database open to the public.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: But, like, you know, obviously don't give out their addresses. That's up.
[00:16:26] Speaker B: You should definitely not give out their Addresses.
But.
So I feel there's two different levels of what people are saying is doxing and what doxxing is. And so the. That's why I am making that distinction of. I kept saying their names and stuff, and you're like, not their address. And I'm like, I understand. Not their address. Understood. But their names and a picture of them should be up to date. Pictures should be available in the database as well.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: So I'm sure you can call whatever office and be like, hey, can I get all the names of all the officers that were out there?
We are doing like a news report or something like that. And they'd be kind of inclined to give you those names or you get a free.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: They're not required to Freedom of Information.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: Act would require them to. Yes.
I don't think you'd have to put out the formal request for it and all the body cam footage for it.
[00:17:27] Speaker B: And then go through the time and all that fun stuff.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: But you would get those names. Absolutely.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: But it's like, not in a timely fashion.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: Yeah, but, you know, people want names so they can find out who they are, where they live.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: Like.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: Cause, like, I was, like, reading the comments because I'm a part of, you know, the Durango community.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:50] Speaker A: And so, like, I was getting all of, you know, everything and people like, what are their names? We should go to their house, you know, and protest. You know, we should, you know, make them feel not welcome in this town.
And I'm like, yeah, that's an incitement of violence.
[00:18:09] Speaker B: I don't think protesting outside of someone's house is wrong.
And it's the same as Chester the Molester and protesting out in front of their house.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: Oh, no, you don't have to protest outside of a fucking, you know, chomo's house. You just have to go inside and fucking put two in its head.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: No, no, no. You can't just talk about. You shouldn't incite violence and then don't talk about inciting violence. No, no, no. So back to what I was saying is the two, you should and legally have the rights in America to be able to protest in front of someone's house.
That's all.
[00:18:50] Speaker A: I feel like after a certain amount of time, like after, like, quiet hours, you know, you're now, you know, violating, you know that? And you should get, like, ticketed for it. And it's like, if you want to continue, cool. If you want to continue past that, you. Now you're going to get arrested for disturbing the peace, you know. But if you want to, you know, protest during, you know, fucking loud hours. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead and be outside, you know, someone's house. But if you cross the boundary onto the property, you're now going to get hit with trespassing.
If you, you know, throw something at their property, throw like a bottle at their property, you're gonna get charged with vandalism.
You know, all is fair.
You know, it's like, I think that.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: You have a different perception of most protests.
I don't think most protests are violent or leads to vandalism.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: No, I'd say about, you know, maybe, you know, 10% of people out there will, like, actually do something, get in a scuffle, you know, shit like that. But mob mentality, you know, in general, you know, if, you know, one thing happens if, like, they grab one person, like, you'll have, like eight people just at an instinct, you know, kind of swarm that officer, and it's like, hey, guess what? All eight of you are now getting prison sentences.
Especially if that officer was to die.
If, you know, and like, if I.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: Just have to say debatable because the president committed all those percentages. So it depends on who's in power that gets punished. Continue.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: I mean, they did go to prison.
[00:20:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: So. Yes.
I mean, like, when we get another Democratic president that's like, oh, these poor little souls.
But, you know, the second, you know, go ahead and, like, release the names and, you know, just keep track of who, you know, accesses those names.
And, you know, if anything happens and someone shows up, there's a bunch of.
[00:20:54] Speaker B: These ifs that like, yeah, everything that you say and the right likes to say. But when it happens to the left, such as the. What's it called that one.
What's it called? Democratic Families House. That or Judge's House.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: They got killed by someone on the left. Yeah, like.
Yeah, the one into Minnesota. I know.
They got killed by, like, a leftist. They got killed by a Tim Waltz and pointy.
I.
Yeah, I mean, I'll look it up right now. That way you can see it.
Minnesota politicians killed.
So, yeah, Vance Bow Letter of the Green, you know, has been charged while stalking and murdering the. So this guy Vance, let's go ahead and Google him up.
Yeah. He still.
New York Times, the man charged.
Oh, look, they wiped it. That's crazy. But it's crazy that they have so much information at Tim Waltz.
Yeah. Hours after the shooting of the two Minnesota lawmakers, and I'm like, who kills lawmakers?
[00:23:05] Speaker B: Again, this wasn't even the one I was Talking about? I was talking about the one judge family's house that got blown up. And what.
[00:23:13] Speaker A: Anyways, I have not heard about that.
There's a house that got blown up.
That's awful.
[00:23:23] Speaker B: I don't know what to say.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: I have not heard about this. I am ignorant on this subject, you know, but yeah, don't blow up judges houses. Okay. You know, if doesn't matter what side you're on, what political spectrum you're on, do not go out there and be like, I want to fucking, you know, be violent today. I want to, you know, cause violence. I want to beat someone up. It's like that, that doesn't, that doesn't help anything.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: The right has so much more mass shootings and violence than any other side. And I don't understand how everyone could be like the right. Well, those. What if, what if, what if the left does this? What if the left does this? But then when things happen, whether it's left or right, when the right finds out it's their side, they just drop the story. Whereas in like, if it's a left side, the story continues where it should just be straight across.
The story continues because this is what happened.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: Yeah, but then you know, when it's like, oh, it's Tim Robinson and you know, he was, you know, left and you know, he had, you know, all these anti right, you know, views and you know, he hated all the, you know, his right wing family and you're like, no, no, fake news. That's fake news. And it's like, okay.
And it's like that, that's like why, you know, so many, you know, right wing people don't take left wing people, you know, seriously.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: I don't.
We can't just keep saying what about ism? In order to defend what one's narrow perspective.
[00:25:10] Speaker A: Honestly, I feel like there's a lot of people that are like more centralist than they, you know, want to believe.
And you know, people use evil people and evil deeds to say, hey, look, your side's bad. And like we'll sit here and be like, oh look, you know these people, you know, your side's bad. And it's like, no, those people were bad.
Those people had evil intentions and went out and did evil things or were confused, you know, like I, I agree.
[00:25:42] Speaker B: With you, I absolutely do. But your, your actions of showing how quick the peop. This person, Vance, whatever that shot the government governor or the Minnesota people was linked with Tim Waltz. Like, you're also.
That statement is part of the issue of hey, well look, this person who is part of the left is causing this violence instead of, like you just said, where we should be like, hey, this mentally ill person.
Hence why, again, I personally, and we have it on recording that I've said from the beginning, the Charlie Kirk shooter was a meme shooter. It wasn't. He was. This person wasn't a leftist or a rightist or any of that. It was just a fucked up individual that didn't know what the fuck they wanted to do and they decided to go and do that. I also think it's a little weird that some things don't make sense in the whole Charlie Kirk shooting of he broke down the rifle, jumped off the thing and then reassembled it. I guess when they found it in the bush, it fully assembled. So there's a couple of things that are a little weird, but I mean.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: Number one, like, you know, as someone that, you know, has a few guns, I would just wrap it up in a towel and just. Just throw it down and there.
I don't think he disassembled the gun.
You know, he might have, like, taken like, you know, like a scope off or something like that, you know, or like done like a field strip of a gun, but like that, you know, probably broke it all the way down and built it up on the roof. But still, I'm like, it's a, you know, all in all a completely fucked up thing to go and, you know, attack another human being.
Because, like, I have a lot of, you know, people, you know, that have completely opposite, you know, even further left than you, you know, and I'm like, you're still my friend.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: I don't think I'm that far left.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that's exactly the point. Yeah, but they're. They're like, you know, hardcore, like, Kamala is great and, you know, Donald Trump is a fascist Nazi. And I'm like, I think if we.
[00:28:09] Speaker B: Had a real true Overton, like, window of like, true left and right in the US and whatnot, I would be considered a centrist.
[00:28:19] Speaker A: I mean, like, you know, I don't think I'm as extreme, you know, as, you know, some of these Republicans out here.
But I'm, you know, when other, you know, leftists look at me like, oh, my God, you're a Nazi. Like, I'm like, oh, you poor soul.
I'm like, go and actually learn what the fucking Nazis did. Like, that's like one of the things that annoy me is when people sit there and say, Trump is a fascist Nazi.
And we're here protesting against him. I'm like, go read your history books and learn what happened to the people that protested Trump and the Nazi regime. Go learn what happened to them. They all got killed and imprisoned and then sent to concentration camps.
[00:29:15] Speaker B: I think all those people that happened four years into his term, two years into his term, where the first two years wasn't. Second.
I don't think that you could blame our shitty knowledge of what Nazis really are.
You can't blame that on the general public. When the general public wasn't taught what Nazis were in school. Since, you know, we kind of took a few of those scientists and gave them land and gave them.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: Yeah, Project Paperclip. Yeah. But, you know, we. We did the same thing for Japan. There was a Japan, like unit 731 or something.
And like, they were awful, too.
[00:30:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:04] Speaker A: Like, I don't know if you've heard about unit 730. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, they were awful as well. And then we took those people and like, you just brought them on in like, oh, this is good information. We're not going to do anything to you.
I'm like, I'm like, okay, yeah, okay, go.
Okay.
All right, we're. We're back.
So, yeah, I mean, in short, don't go out and start, you know, attacking people.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: Wait, I still want to go back on another thing you said, though.
[00:30:40] Speaker A: Let's see.
[00:30:40] Speaker B: Earlier, you're talking about, like, what's it called? As long as you don't say anything bad about the government. I don't remember the exact verbiage you used, but you were talking about not talking bad about the government as. What's it called? Somebody.
A immigrant.
Oh, yeah.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: If you're, if you're gonna come into this country and just, you know, talk, you know, all that shit and just try and indoctrinate other people to say that America sucks and America so.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: So pointing out facts is indoctrination or what do you mean by doctrinating people.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: Like, you know, saying, hey, America is racist. Just, you know, put. Putting out, you know, just a blanket statement.
[00:31:27] Speaker B: America is a racist country. It was built on slavery with still slavery institutions.
B built our foundations upon.
[00:31:36] Speaker A: I mean, I don't think it was built on all slavery.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: It's definitely not built on all slavery. But you can find a direct correlation between slave replac police.
[00:31:48] Speaker A: We replaced the train tracks between then and now.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: And, you know, that's exactly what Nazi Germany said and not. And Germany now says is that they replaced.
[00:32:01] Speaker A: God damn, am I the bad Guy.
[00:32:06] Speaker B: And a lot of. And, like, when we're talking, like, going back to the whole Nazi thing, a lot of people don't. And us not learning our history. A lot of Americans don't realize how prevalent Nazism was in America and fascism was in America before the whole Pearl harbor thing and whatnot.
[00:32:26] Speaker A: I mean, fucking. The Japanese sided with the Nazis. I don't know if you know that.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: I do know that.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: Okay. I'm just making sure. I'm like, you know, like, I.
I weirdly have, like, a bit of a knowledge on, like, you know, World War II and Nazis and that. Dumb.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah. But you. You understand that we had, like, a littered, legit Nazi party in America. We had Nazi rallies in America.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: Yeah, they're called the Klux Klan.
[00:32:54] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no. We had the Klan and Nazis. Two very bad people got together.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: We still have them. I hate to tell you that. I know.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: We have both. And they still hang out together, too.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm like, you think they're just, like, gone? They're like, we're Neo Nazis now. We're no longer old Nazis.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: But they used to have a party, same as, like, the Green Party.
They had. They actually had political power in America, and that's not taught to Americans. Most Americans don't know that.
[00:33:32] Speaker A: It's like that episode of Creature Commandos.
The. Have you ever seen that show?
[00:33:38] Speaker B: It's. I. It sounds familiar, but it's a.
[00:33:40] Speaker A: It's a Marvel show where, like, you know, like, there's, like, a bunch of, like, random fucking, you know, like, there's, like, Frankenstein and Frankenstein's, like, lady, you know, but there's an episode. Well, there's a character all throughout the series called GI Robot. And GI Robot was built to kill Nazis.
And so he did his job really fucking well.
And then they, like, kind of scrapped him and, you know, kind of put him to the side. And he had, like, an AI that was just, like, his own personality. He's like, are we here to kill Nazis?
And, you know, then, like, some dude, like, buys him. He's, like, really interested in them, and, like. Like, they become, like, best friends, and then he takes them to a meeting, and then the curtain gets pulled back and it's like a Nazi rally, like, in the middle of America, and GI Robot flips out and kills everyone there, then goes to jail for.
[00:34:37] Speaker B: It was this animated series. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about now.
[00:34:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm like. It's hilarious.
Just like the Iron Giant just, like, reminds me of that.
I'm Just like, yes.
[00:34:53] Speaker B: And I've never seen the Iron Giant.
[00:34:55] Speaker A: You've never seen the Iron Giant?
[00:34:57] Speaker B: Oh, that's a. I know the preface. I know the like pictures and stuff, but I've never seen it.
[00:35:04] Speaker A: Like, like, if you get a chance, just sit down and just like watch Aaron Giant. It's a fucking. So I'm sure it's like free on YouTube now.
[00:35:11] Speaker B: Everyone, especially in this day, day and age, you need to go watch five.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: It goes west, the Iron Giant movie.
Let's see.
Yeah, it has a 96 on rotten tomatoes.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: Heard.
[00:35:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it's free on the Roku Channel. So if you have the Roku Channel, I'm sure it's an actual app.
But yeah, I mean, you know, if you want to, you know, come in and you know, change America into your country, just go back to your country. You'll enjoy it more.
You know, I know that sounds like, you know, up and racist, but it's like if you're like coming over to America and be like, man, India was so much better, you know, I love Bangladesh, you know, and I, I, I wish this was Bangladesh and stop trying to make America Bangladesh, you know, go back there.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: So are you saying that you can't bring any of your culture from.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: No, you can bring your culture here. I, I love when people bring their culture here. Absolutely. You know, you can cook your food and bring it to a potluck and all that and enjoy your religion.
Then.
[00:36:26] Speaker B: What do you mean by make it.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: But when you're like, you know, trying to enforce like Sharia law.
Yeah.
[00:36:34] Speaker B: Where has Sharia law tried to be enforced?
[00:36:36] Speaker A: New York.
[00:36:39] Speaker B: Please show me the example where Sharia law has been tried to be enforced through.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: Where has Sharia law try to be enforced in the United States?
No official enforcement.
[00:36:56] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:36:57] Speaker A: So, yeah, no, of course. That's why I said tried.
American courts do not and cannot enforce Sharia laws is not compatible with the U.S. constitution.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: Correct.
So again, this is one of those.
[00:37:09] Speaker A: What if boogeyman things of like state, state level action. Several states have passed laws or measured a ban the consideration of, of foreign or religious laws in their courts. You know, and I love that.
But some accommodations are made for religious practices in the United States. These are granted within the framework of existing law and are not the same as imposing Sharia law. But you know, can you can have like your little area where Sharia law is enforced?
[00:37:40] Speaker B: No, no, finish. For example.
[00:37:44] Speaker A: For example, some banks offer Sharia compliant financial products and some public institutions may make accommodations for religious holidays. But let's let's go here.
You know, actually, what is Sharia?
Let's, you know, that way people understand what the we're talking about. The term Sharia comes from an Arabic word meaning path to water, which reflects on the concepts of Sharia's divine guidance, mainly drawn from the Quran and the Sudan or Sunan teachings from the prophet Muhammad. The purpose is to help humanity draw close to God and live in kindness and justice with his creation. You know, that seems nice.
That seems nice. Up front, the team. Sharia was used by Muslims to refer the values, code of conduct and religious commandments or sacred laws which provide them with guidance in various aspects to life.
So just pretty much religious law, you know, having religious police, you know, oh, you have to cover your hair, you have to do this, you have to do that, you know, oh, if you do this, you're gonna get stoned to death. You know, kind of like Old Testament, you know, stuff.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure we said a few women to burn out the stakes for other religious laws. So America is.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: Yeah, because they're probably being annoying. Honestly, they're just like, you know, they probably had like the, you know, like an annoying voice and they're like, burn her.
She hasn't sucked my dick in like a month. It's like, it is gross.
You haven't taken a bath in three years.
It's like, yeah, burner.
But yeah, I mean it. This has not been implemented fully into the United States.
But, you know.
[00:39:53] Speaker B: So you can't. There's no real worry about Sharia law being implemented.
[00:39:59] Speaker A: There is a worry about.
[00:40:01] Speaker B: Bro, bro, bro. There is no real religion beyond Christianity as the dominant religion in America.
[00:40:10] Speaker A: Oh, buddy.
What is the dominant religion in the United States of America?
Christianity is the dominant with various Protestant denominations taking up the largest portion as Christians. Christianity.
But let's look at this, you know, graph. Oh, that's just fucking. Who celebrated? Nope, nope, That's.
So who's this unaffiliated 23%.
Yeah. So unaffiliated actually has a fucking most. The fucking people that don't even go to church.
[00:40:45] Speaker B: No, no, no.
Just because Christians decided to break off into a lot of different sects of non domination Protestant and all that other stuff. Does it change what is the largest.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Religion in the world?
[00:41:00] Speaker B: Muslim?
[00:41:02] Speaker A: No, still Christianity.
[00:41:05] Speaker B: That's fair.
[00:41:06] Speaker A: Islam is the second largest religion with about 2 billion followers, followed by Hinduism with about 1.2.
And all these religions have great points.
A lot of them do.
And I'm like, oh, yeah.
And then they're like, then there's like, just points where they go off the tracks. I'm like, no, even Christianity.
You know, I. I will be the first to say even Christianity, though Christians.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: Pick and choose which part of the Bible they follow.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: What are you talking about? I. I, like, the Bible is one of the very few books that I have read cover to cover.
And I love when people come up and be like, well, you should hate these people. It's like, did Jesus hate those people?
You know, did he?
And it's like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
[00:42:03] Speaker B: Don't you.
Oh, my God.
[00:42:07] Speaker A: So I just pull out a WWJD on them. I'm like, don't you feel then that.
[00:42:14] Speaker B: The rich said pay their fair share of taxes? And also, don't you feel that we should feed our poor and.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I believe that we should have the year jubilee and all that. Absolutely.
A hundred percent.
You know, like, the year jubilee was like, every, like, seven years, you have to just, like, forgive all debts.
Like, that was a thing.
[00:42:39] Speaker B: It was.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: And you know, like, you know, all animals even, like, it had to, like, you know, rest on the Sabbath. You know, I. I feel like the Jewish, you know, people have, like, like, the closest, like, to, like, the Bible, and I'm like, you know, the Jews actually have, like, a lot of good, you know, a lot of good in them.
I. I'm. Am I be. Is this wrong? Am I. Am I saying ignorant things? I feel like I am. I feel like you. You're over here judging me. Be like, you are ignorant.
[00:43:12] Speaker B: I'm judging your verbiage.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: But, yeah, I say it with love in my heart.
You know, I'm like, I have Jewish friends.
[00:43:24] Speaker B: So many. You just brought me back to the 80s and 90s. I have so many colored friends.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: I am the colored friend.
Like, I show up and I, you know, if someone, you know, says something slightly racist, I can give them, like, that look and be like, like, you're not even black. I'm like, yeah, but I have to represent them right now. Okay?
I'm like, I have a black friend.
Sorry, Tron, you're not my only black friend.
Dang it.
You're like, I. I thought I was a token black friend. Now I have, like, quite a few, actually.
I think, like, you might be, like, one of the few American black friends, though.
[00:44:19] Speaker B: Yay.
[00:44:21] Speaker A: A lot of them from Africa, though.
[00:44:23] Speaker B: Technically, I'm a German black.
[00:44:28] Speaker A: Yes.
Yes, you are.
But you're, like, military brat, so.
[00:44:38] Speaker B: I'm very Americanized.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: I'm like, anytime I. I'm Like, I have a. I have a black friend from Germany that's Korean.
Like, what?
Like, that's too many things. You're hurting me. Ow.
Like, Like, Like I was ready to get be racist, but I'm like, now, is he white?
He's like, no, no, he's black.
But, like, you'll want to touch his hair and everything. It's crazy.
[00:45:17] Speaker B: The police will definitely be talking to him.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: I. I feel like that, like, when police, like, walk up to you and you're like, hey. They're like, man, he doesn't even talk ghetto.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: It has got me out of a lot of situations.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: Absolutely. Like, when police, you know, walk up to my door, they're like, ready for some. I'm like, howdy. And like, oh, fuck.
You know, And I'm like, white power. And they're like, oh, God damn, I love him. He's good. Oh.
[00:45:55] Speaker B: Back to the face. Palm.
[00:45:56] Speaker A: Exactly.
So, yes, all in all, don't attack ice people.
But you don't have to love them either. Like, that's the. That's a great thing about America, you know, we're not fascists. We're not out here fucking killing you and putting you in prisons and concentration camps. You're allowed to fucking go out there and protest. If you don't like something, go out there and protest. Go out there and show, you know, the people in power that you do not like this, you know, but don't, you know, sit out here calling the other fucking people that voted for the person you don't like Orange Man Bad, you know, Nazis as well, because maybe you might need our help.
Maybe if the young government starts to overstep, you know, with the Second Amendment and the people that fucking voted for Orange Man Bad, that have that Second Amendment might be able to come help you.
[00:46:50] Speaker B: I think you should expand that and you should go both ways, and both sides should realize that we all are Americans and we all need to live together. Realistically, which side is in power at.
[00:47:02] Speaker A: The moment, pulling the curtain aside, realistically, I feel like instead of having the right versus left, it should be like the, you know, the 1 per the 99 versus 1% versus the government versus the overseers versus the, you know, government in itself. You know, like, you do what we tell you the to do, you know, you know, force a democracy.
And, you know, everyone down here, it's like, yeah, we have different differing opinions. And like, all my friends know my opinions, but they're still my friends because I'm like, I, I, I don't, you know, I Don't hate you.
You know, and I. I see your opinion. Your opinion is valid 100%.
And I'm not going to say, oh, you should, you know, get rid of that opinion because it's stupid. No, you. You. You get to have your opinion. Welcome to America. Isn't it grand to be here?
So let's go ahead and jump into this second fucking subject I had for this episode, which was the food stamps and all the fucking stuff that we lost.
Like, I fucking. I looked up so much goddamn shit, and I'm like, did I fucking, you know, lose? Like, what the. I was. It don't matter.
So with this government shutdown, one of the longest government shutdowns ever, both of.
[00:48:32] Speaker B: Them are under Trump.
[00:48:34] Speaker A: Hell Yeah. We're number one. We're number one. We'Re number one, though.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: TRUMP IN the past said that a government shut down his failure on the president.
[00:48:47] Speaker A: I mean, if you're gonna fucking judge a man by what he said in the past, I'm a awful person.
I'm sure. Like, the. You know, I'm.
[00:48:57] Speaker B: How far in the past do you get?
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Awful. Yesterday, this morning, Like, I can't wait.
[00:49:03] Speaker B: So wait. We have to stop the judgment every 24 hours.
[00:49:07] Speaker A: Every 10 hours, you have to stop the judgment.
[00:49:10] Speaker B: So that Hitler's a good guy. Like, that's how that goes, right?
[00:49:14] Speaker A: No, he died a bad guy. He died eating cyanide.
[00:49:17] Speaker B: Oh, so if you d die a bad person, that he said.
[00:49:19] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
If Hitler was like, I hate Jews and then took the cyanide. Ah, bad guy.
But if he, like, waited 10 hours and he's like, you know what Jews are. Okay. And then I gave the sign, I'm like, ah, he's going to heaven.
[00:49:34] Speaker B: Nope, that's fair. That's fair.
[00:49:35] Speaker A: No, Hitler's not going to heaven. But, like, Paul Pot, you know. You know who Paul Pot is? Do you?
[00:49:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:42] Speaker A: Okay. Let me. Let me introduce you to Paul Potter. Pol Pot was the part of the Cambodian genocide back in 19, like, 70.
Like, this is only 50 years ago. This is like, you know, like our parents. Time came through Cambodia, had the killing fields of Cambodia. There's your buzzword.
And started killing, you know, way too many Cambodians.
Part of the Khmer Rouge, the leader of it.
And, you know, like, no one really, you know, gave a. And then like, they, you know, came out and took him out. Now he's, like, in jail, and he's like, I believe in Jesus now.
And he's like, I'm going to heaven. I'm like, God damn, It I'm like.
[00:50:34] Speaker B: He could believe he's going to heaven.
[00:50:36] Speaker A: Like, what? What if that's all it takes? What if that's it? Like, what if that's all it takes.
[00:50:40] Speaker B: That heaven's gonna be full of some bad people?
[00:50:44] Speaker A: It's like, please, Jesus. I, I, I'm, I'm sorry.
[00:50:48] Speaker B: Like, that's literally. Isn't this how, like, this is the. It happened to him. Philip DeFranco started flipping off everyone that God's like, nope. And dropped him.
Just saying if that's the thing. Heaven's full of bad people.
[00:51:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Just like, people, like, just monsters, like, you know, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer. Just like, all these, like, Ed Gein's up there. It's like, what the hell?
[00:51:16] Speaker B: Because I bet you a lot of those people found either Christ or a spiritual thing when they were strapped to that bench for that lethal ejection. Or strapped to the.
Oh, Betsy. With this spark.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: I mean, what about the people that got filled with holes in, like, police chases?
What's those, Thelma and Louise?
[00:51:44] Speaker B: I don't know if you have enough time to find Christ when you get shot. It depends.
[00:51:51] Speaker A: I mean, you may believe that, but. All right, God, you got me.
I believe in you now. All right? And it's like heaven. It's like, ah, it's like the government just learns how to capture souls. I'm like, nope, you ain't going to heaven. Oh, no.
Like, they just have, like, a soul net and they just, like, put, like, weights on you and just, like, send you down to hell. Like, soul weights and just.
[00:52:19] Speaker B: Would be terrible.
[00:52:20] Speaker A: That'd be hilarious.
Just like the government's like, yeah, we spent a trillion dollars figuring out how to do it, but now we can do it. Now we can guarantee that bad people go to hell.
Hitler went to heaven. He's up in heaven. Yeah, we can talk to heaven. What about it?
But so what, what do you, like, what is your feelings on, you know, food stamps being cut off, you know, this month?
[00:52:51] Speaker B: So to the question asked is we, as the richest nation in the world, should figure out food stamps with. And we already have it legally, the money aside for this food stamps for the government shutdown for when this case, just in case happened. So we already have it, and there's just a person who's saying not to use it because he has the discretion of how money is spent.
Now Congress, like his.
[00:53:29] Speaker A: Who is he?
[00:53:31] Speaker B: Trump's legal reasoning is, do you think.
[00:53:35] Speaker A: Trump has, like, absolute power? Because I know he doesn't. Negative. Exactly.
[00:53:40] Speaker B: So you know, Congress already approved the money and then trump his legal defense, same as why he decided not to fund certain things, is I, I have the way to where the money is spent. But Congress has the power to be like, yes, we have this money. So that is the legal defense for that.
Now for the unasked question.
We as America, the richest country in the world, we shouldn't have hungry people. No matter if they're lazy or if they're hard working or not, we shouldn't have hungry people. And most people on food stamps, and you could google this, they do have a 20 to 40 hour job, if not a full 40 hour, like full time job because it is a requirement to work tagful food stamps when you're able body.
[00:54:35] Speaker A: Yeah, no, like I, I'm, you know, I'm here for, you know, food stamps for those that need it, you know. But like, if you ever get caught like selling your food stamps or you don't get caught, you know, taking food stamps when you don't truly need it, then you get in, you know, massive amounts of trouble. I know I had a friend that got caught, you know, having food stamps when he didn't truly need it.
He had like a job and the government's like, hey, you have to pay us back all this goddamn money or you're gonna go to jail.
I'm like, damn, dude. He's like, yeah, I have to pay back like $800. Sucks.
I'm like, no, at this point in my life I'm like, yeah, here, 800 bucks off, you know, and like I, I feel kind of blessed to be in a position where I'm like, I don't have to worry about it, you know, I haven't had to worry about food stamps in quite a minute.
Like I like, you know, do you have food stamps?
[00:55:32] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:55:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
And did you lose your food stamps at the moment?
[00:55:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:37] Speaker A: Yeah, that fucking sucks. Do you need food?
[00:55:40] Speaker B: I mean, not at this moment.
[00:55:43] Speaker A: Yeah, like I got you covered.
So I got you know, Tron covered if he, you know, we can go to like Sam's Club or something like that and you know, get you all stocked up.
[00:55:56] Speaker B: Thank you be for being Mr. Beast.
[00:56:00] Speaker A: I know, Mr. Beast, but you know, I ain't gonna let you know, like one of my best friends starve, you know, on the, you know, account of, you know, you know, some food. But yeah, like, as the richest country, it's like, you know, have your homies backs, have your grandma's back, have your friends backs all the fucking way through, you know, if they need something.
[00:56:23] Speaker B: But we shouldn't have to do that, since as the richest country, we as though on the bottom 99% pay more in taxes than the top 1% does. And in that bottom 99% of paying those taxes, the government, our social contract is, hey, we pay these taxes, the government helps takes care of the needy. And so that should be done. And that's what I'm saying is so.
[00:56:51] Speaker A: Like, if I went into the Social Security office and I'm like, yo, give me some food stamps. And I lied about it because, like, if they saw my paycheck, like, fuck out of here.
Fuck you talking about food stamps? Oh, hell no. You know, but, like, if I, like, walked in and was like, yo, give me food. Samsung lied about him. I got him homeless and need foods here, you know, like, would that be okay?
[00:57:20] Speaker B: I think that you shouldn't have to lie about it, and you should just be able to be, hey, I need food. And then we're like, here's the basics.
[00:57:31] Speaker A: Like. Like, here's, you know, how I feel food stamps should be handled. I feel like, you know, those, like, meal boxes that you get, that like.
Like Blue Apron and like that. Yeah, I feel like we should send, like, you know, boxes to everyone that needs food that has, like, a good, balanced, you know, mix of nutrition, you know, as far as food goes. Because there are people out there selling their food stamps for, you know, whatever. And I'm not saying it's everyone.
I'm saying it's probably, like, honestly, like, maybe like, 10, 15%, but, you know, it's like, boom. Anyone that needs food, we will send you boxes of food, you know, we will, you know, send you, you know, and then have, like, you know, food pantries and be like, yep, you can come into, like, this store and, you know, get the food you need to, you know, feed your family, you know, a nutritious meal. And people that need, you know, like, kosher meals and stuff like that, we got you covered too, you know, and, you know, people that have sensitive stomachs and can't eat this, can't eat that, that. That way you can be like, this is what I want, and then we send you food.
[00:58:50] Speaker B: Like, because the hot take, if we were able during COVID to stop rent payment, stop or give provide people money and provide food, and the society didn't collapse, we should be able to use that as the baseline for our population of, hey, this is the worst that. This is the worst of your living situation as being an American.
There we go.
[00:59:21] Speaker A: But here's what, you know, really happens. Like, what happens if we run out of money?
What happens if the government shuts down, runs out of money, and like, oh, shit. And then no one wants to fucking pay taxes anymore.
Like, if I didn't have to fucking pay a mortgage here anymore, and I didn't have to pay for food, and I can just, you know, sit on my ass all day and just, like, play Call of Duty every day.
I would love to do that. That'd be.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: I don't think you would. I think at some point you would get bored, and then you would start trying to pursue different things that spawn your interest. And that's how our society grows, is we actually devalue regular money versus labor, and then we're able to go ahead and somehow value time and passions for value.
[01:00:12] Speaker A: Okay, yeah, you do know me. I could fucking sit here.
[01:00:15] Speaker B: I know most people, like, a lot of people say that, like, they could, but I think most people could it because, like. Like, even me, who's, like, a stoner and stuff, like, I would think, hey, my dream job would be, like, just to chill, play video games, and da, da, da. And then I went through recovery from a heart surgery, and I was like, I just want to walk and do something.
[01:00:38] Speaker A: I want to work.
[01:00:38] Speaker B: I want to do something.
So I do think, like, yes, there's a great deal of people who would at first be like, this is the best ever. And then two, three months into it, they'll be like, this is the worst. I need to do something.
[01:00:53] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Like.
Like, I work 60 hours a week, and I'm on the road like, 100 hours a week, every week, non stop. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I like, it never, you know, ends, you know, And I'm like, so here in a couple weeks, I'm taking, you know, a weekend off, you know, just like a Friday, Saturday, Sunday off.
And most people, like, have those days off anyway. Like, what?
I'm like, no, I work, you know, Monday through Saturday every week.
[01:01:25] Speaker B: And then I think most corporate people do. I don't think most Americans do, but.
[01:01:31] Speaker A: It'S like, you know, I work a demanding job that requires me to, you know, move around and be a truck driver and unload tires.
So, yeah, I mean, but if, you know, everyone, if, you know, the working class wasn't working, tax, you know, revenue would not be generated.
And then we'd kind of all be.
Because, you know, like, if you, you know, you see America and you're like, okay, shrink that down.
You know, shrink it down to Like a state shrink it down to, like a household.
You know, mom and dad are usually the ones that are working, correct?
[01:02:15] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:02:16] Speaker A: You know, the kids and maybe like the grandma living there just, you know, kind of, you know, surviving off of the work of the parents.
You know, the grandma, you know, bought the house and, you know, put in her work. But if the parents stop working, if the working class stops working, then guess what? It, you know, the electricity goes out, this goes out, that goes out. Oh, no more food, no more this, no more that.
And.
[01:02:45] Speaker B: And this is. So what you're talking about is the working class right now, right? Yeah, but the capitalist class, they don't have to work to generate money because they live off of their.
What's it called? Assets and their per diems and all that. That happens every month of.
[01:03:04] Speaker A: Oh, those would go to zero.
[01:03:06] Speaker B: No, I mean, like in our society right now, if yes, they would go to zero, which also then shows that the working class generates all the value in our society and not the rich. So therefore, we should be giving more to our working class than the rich.
[01:03:24] Speaker A: The working class is who gives the rich their money. Yes. You know, I feel like if you.
[01:03:31] Speaker B: You know, Jeff Bezos doesn't do ability or. How much does he make? More than his average employee.
[01:03:39] Speaker A: All right, see, this is my favorite part about having the Internet. How much does Jeff Bezos make a year?
His official salary from Amazon is around 81,000. Makes less than me, that poor fuck. Fuck you, JF Jeff Bezos. You're poor as shit. Eat my dick. My fucking rich ass dick. Eat my fucking golden ass dick. Oh, but, you know, if you want to, you know, do the investments and all that, it's like 70 million an hour, 7.9 million an hour.
[01:04:17] Speaker B: An hour. So.
[01:04:19] Speaker A: So does he do.
[01:04:21] Speaker B: Does he does that much more work than you do?
[01:04:24] Speaker A: Oh, no, I'm sorry. I said 70 million. I said I meant to say 70 billion. So 7.9 million an hour is official salary. But, you know, that's. You know, stocks like that can all go to.
[01:04:36] Speaker B: No, I understand that.
[01:04:37] Speaker A: Can I go to zero? That's an unrealized gain.
And that's how you game the system, is you go to the bank and back, yo, check this shit out. In this crazy. Give me money, right?
[01:04:50] Speaker B: And so again, in how we have capitalism, we are valuing him more than we value.
[01:04:58] Speaker A: Someone did the fucking math.
There is about a 1, you know, 0.6 million employees. About how much. If Jeff Bezos was split in between all Amazon workers, how much would they make? Okay, yeah.
So about a dollar per employee.
So, yeah, he makes like a million times his employees make.
[01:05:28] Speaker B: Correct. But he doesn't do a million times as work, as much work.
[01:05:32] Speaker A: But he created the opportunity for them to have a job, and I feel like that's worth something.
[01:05:40] Speaker B: Spoke you like a capitalist that.
[01:05:42] Speaker A: I am a capitalist.
[01:05:44] Speaker B: That is just a unrealized billionaire that you're not, though.
[01:05:48] Speaker A: Oh, I'm not like, I'm. I'm like, you know, I'm in six figures.
That's where I'm at. Six figures.
Personally.
[01:06:02] Speaker B: I said unrealized, first of all.
[01:06:05] Speaker A: Second of all, unrealized six figures.
[01:06:07] Speaker B: Most, most capitalists think that they are closer to being a millionaire than the homeless guy on the street, but they are way closer being the homeless guy on the street than that millionaire.
[01:06:20] Speaker A: You know, here's the thing about, you know, humans is like, you know, Jeff Bezos can have an aneurysm tomorrow and die and just boom.
All that money that you had, if you had every dollar in the world, it wouldn't make a lick of difference.
You know, enjoy what you have and, like, and then, you know, pass it down to somebody else and then pat and like, you know, put in, you know, systems to where it's like, boom, you're now in charge. Boom, you're now in charge. Boom, you're now in charge.
Sell your company.
[01:06:56] Speaker B: Or you should just make your company public assets and then the whole public kid, you know, benefit from it.
[01:07:03] Speaker A: What are you talking about? You can buy Amazon stock.
I think I even have Amazon stock.
What is Amazon stock currently?
[01:07:12] Speaker B: I don't think you buy an Amazon stock means it's a public service.
[01:07:19] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's exactly what that means.
[01:07:21] Speaker B: I don't think so. Google, what a public service is.
[01:07:25] Speaker A: What is a public service? In stocks.
Not in stocks.
[01:07:30] Speaker B: Not in stocks.
Because you're. What's it called?
[01:07:37] Speaker A: A public service is like, you know, a service that's available to the public. And yes, this is a service that's available to the public. My service, my company is not available to the public. We are a wholesaler and we sell the businesses only.
So, yes, I mean, you, you can, like, if I was to, you know, spend like 300 and buy a stock of Amazon, I would be a part owner of Amazon.
[01:08:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that. This is a public service is a service provided by a government or official body to benefit all members of the community, such as healthcare, education and emergency services.
So it's not a service that's meant to generate wealth. It's meant to do Improvement.
[01:08:29] Speaker A: Amazon is definitely.
[01:08:30] Speaker B: Amazon could always be a public. Any of these companies could always be like, hey, we're not going to be a capitalist company anymore. We're going to give our company to the government so the government could give the services for free.
[01:08:45] Speaker A: Amazon Pharmacy.
[01:08:49] Speaker B: Amazon Pharmacy is not a public service.
[01:08:52] Speaker A: It is.
[01:08:53] Speaker B: It is not.
[01:08:56] Speaker A: I don't, I'm not signed into the Amazon Pharmacy. I don't have any fucking, you know, things. But yes. Do you get fucking, you know, cheaper fucking medicine? You get the fucking.
[01:09:06] Speaker B: Good Rx is not a public service. Good Rx is still a company making money for their investors.
[01:09:14] Speaker A: Well, good Rx is Mark Cuban's company. But this is, I know.
[01:09:18] Speaker B: Amazon Pharmacy is also making money for its investors. Not giving, not making a zero profit. For the good of the cup of the.
[01:09:30] Speaker A: It makes you feel better about overspending on pharmaceuticals that you need to just survive.
You know, honestly, I feel like the whole pharmaceutical company or the whole pharmaceutical complex in general just needs to fucking get taken down a few pegs is.
[01:09:52] Speaker B: What Bernie has been trying to do to make it be more like Europe where we aren't paying as astronomical prices for prescription meds.
[01:10:02] Speaker A: That's why we make our own medications, we grow.
[01:10:06] Speaker B: I've never heard the most hillbilly ass David has novel for Jesus.
[01:10:15] Speaker A: That's why we do it ourselves. We make our own moonshine.
But yeah, so like, I, I, I, I truly do feel bad for, you know, all these people that are losing, you know, their, their food stamps and like that. But you can go to churches. You know, a church will have, like, that's how I survived. When I was homeless.
I went to a church and the church, you know, provided me with food, nutritious food.
And like, I, I met a lot of people and I'm like, hey, does anybody need some work done?
You know, I, I will work for dirt cheap and I got a lot of jobs through the church.
And honestly I feel like, you know, that that's one way it's like get a lot of people in the church and, you know, food pantries, food closets, stuff like that. And yes, with like fucking, what is it, 40 million fucking people on food stamps, you know, it's gonna, you know, take a fucking beating.
[01:11:19] Speaker B: Food pantries have already been ready to bear where they've been running in need.
I don't know if you've been to one lately, but there is a huge line to wade in and it's just not feasible for everyone.
[01:11:35] Speaker A: Absolutely not. Yeah, people that are in wheelchairs and shit, like that people have trouble with mobility. Yes, it fucking sucks.
People that don't have vehicles to be able to get around. Yes, it sucks.
Fucking help out your community. Help out. You know, volunteer to go deliver food to fucking people in need. I guarantee you, if you go to a food pantry and, like, hey, I want to volunteer to go deliver, you know, food to people in need, they will, you know, take you up on that.
[01:12:04] Speaker B: It depends. You have to pass a background check and all that other stuff, too.
And. Because, like, you know how bad it would be for a food pantry to accidentally send a wrong person to a wrong house and something bad happened.
[01:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah, obviously, like, for any fucking job ever.
But still, you know, you get in. It's like, you volunteer your fucking time. You, you know, cool. And now you're helping out your community, and now when people are, you know, sitting there complaining. But I'm helping my community. I'm doing my fucking part.
[01:12:41] Speaker B: I also think not everyone could volunteer, and more people cannot than can.
And the same people who are in need of food and stuff are the same people who don't have the opportunity to volunteer.
[01:12:59] Speaker A: I mean, like, there was one person that was, you know, riding around in a wheelchair because I broke their leg or something, and it's like, hey, I need, you know, can anybody help me get across this bridge? Because, like, the bridge over here is all fucked up.
[01:13:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:13:15] Speaker A: And, like, there's, like, no way to, like, get a wheelchair across. And it's like, hey, I just need, like, cross this bridge, and then I can take the rest. And then, like, you know, seven people fucking stood up. I'm like, yeah, we'll fucking help you out. And it's like, all you need to do is just ask for the help, and the help will come.
[01:13:34] Speaker B: I don't believe that, because, I mean.
[01:13:38] Speaker A: Not for everybody, but, you know, it's like, there's a lot of cynical people out there that, you know, at least you acknowledge.
[01:13:46] Speaker B: Not for everybody.
[01:13:47] Speaker A: So that's all.
[01:13:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:13:48] Speaker A: I mean, not, you know, it's like, oh, the pretty girl in the wheelchair will give you a ride. Oh, ugly fat guy in a wheelchair. No.
Survive on your own. How dare you.
You know, it's like.
[01:14:05] Speaker B: You know, you.
[01:14:06] Speaker A: You see like, a obese person with food stamps. They're like, no, take that away from them.
But you see like, a, you know, a single mother with her kid with, you know, Wick and just trying to survive. And, you know, she's out there, you know, living in, like, a little studio apartment with her kid and just doing the best yeah, so it's pick and choose.
You know, it's like, who do we want to help?
And it's, you know, a bias.
Oh, let's help, like the nice white lady with her kid. Oh, this black family that's trying to survive. Ugh.
And I'm like, yeah, that's bad.
But I'm like, can we really realistically help everyone? Yes, we could. But do we want to?
[01:14:55] Speaker B: No.
[01:14:56] Speaker A: Bless you.
[01:15:00] Speaker B: Thank you.
[01:15:02] Speaker A: Because, you know, like, when I go online and here, here's another thing, it's like, not everyone does this, but the people that do this, you make it look bad for everybody else. But when I'm going online, I see a fucking video of, you know, someone back. I'm gonna fucking rob you.
Alright? Yeah, I'm gonna rob you. I'm gonna fucking, you know, steal your fucking shit.
And, you know, I'm like, okay, you know, you're gonna go to jail. Then it's like, I don't give a.
It's like, damn, I don't want to help you. And now you're creating a bias in my head, you know? Oh, is everyone like that?
You know, is everyone at the grocery store?
No.
[01:15:53] Speaker B: You're creating that bias in your head because it's to say if you, if it was that person, one person's reaction or actions creating that bias, then everyone would have bias against white people for school shootings or white people for muggings or running lights. Because again, it. In movies it shows black people as more muggers. But since, you know, we have a higher population of white people, it only makes more sense that there are white people that commit more violent crime as well.
[01:16:24] Speaker A: I mean, the percentage of white people, which is like 70 white people and black people is like 14 black people. It's like, okay, you know, like, like that statistic is like 14, but 50%.
It's like, yeah, but I, I don't, I don't. I don't see a black guy and be like, oh, man, he's gonna be a thug. Oh, man, he's gonna do this. Oh, man, he's gonna do that. No, I'm like, no, I'm gonna judge every person individually, you know, And I'm like, all right, you know, you're a good person.
You're a good person. You're a bad person.
Just stay away from the bad people. You know, if you see a fucking situation about to pop off, you have that gut feeling. Just fucking listen to that gut feeling.
That's all it takes. You know, it's not racist to Listen to a gut feeling.
If you see like a group of black guys, you know, in a tunnel, you all fucking, you know, wearing face masks. Don't go down that fucking tunnel.
If you were to be watching yourselves in a horror movie, holy shit, you're like, don't go in that fucking tunnel.
Just go somewhere else.
You know, like, if you're hanging around a bunch of black people and like a white person, like, is about to walk up and they turn around and walk away, are they racist?
[01:17:48] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:17:51] Speaker A: They are cautious and observant and they are weighing their options on stuff that really happens. If no black, you know, group of, you know, youths ever attack somebody, you know, if that never happened, then they like turn away just because, you know, it's like, oh, racism.
[01:18:12] Speaker B: My friend.
If we were just doing that because of rows of black people use attacking other people, then we would have be just as afraid of white people. Rows of white people attacking people during, after 9, 11, when they attacked anybody who was, you know, of brownish complexion that wasn't dark, just brown. Brown.
[01:18:40] Speaker A: Yeah. No, they attacked Sikhs. They attacked, you know, anyone that wore a head cover and that was up.
[01:18:46] Speaker B: Yeah, but we as a society don't look at, oh, there's five white people there, they're going to go beat up someone or attack this other brown person there. No, we. In fact, there's a part of America that's like, yeah, go get that brown person. So again, we are not past any of that. And you can't say that's not racist because it is.
[01:19:12] Speaker A: I mean, like, like, it's difficult for me because I've hung out with black people in front of like a 7 11.
You know, I've smoked backwoods with them. I fucking drank fucking 40s. Like one of the funniest fucking black people that I know, his name was Omega.
And the first time I met him, holy shit, I almost lost my fucking mind. He came around the corner with an Old English 40 and a chicken wing and was every stereotype in the entire book, every single one.
I'm like, how?
Don't do this. Don't do. Don't be this guy.
[01:19:59] Speaker B: All I'm saying is when you talked about the five black people hanging out in the alley and Turbo walking away, I immediately thought of five of us out in New York fucking while it's snowing in the alley, smoking a blunt because we can't smoke inside and the alley shields us from the wind.
Yeah, that is racist. If you're like, nah, I'm going to go the other way because all we're doing is just chilling.
[01:20:24] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, like, a lot of times, like, you know, like.
Yeah. I listen to, like, my gut, though. Like. Like, I'll walk past, like, a group of black people, no problem.
I probably don't even notice that they're there. I'm probably on my phone, whatever. But, you know, if I said. If I'm walking down the street, I. Hey, hey, yo, let me talk to you for a second. I ain't fucking turning around. Fuck off.
[01:20:48] Speaker B: Or let me hold that. Yeah.
[01:20:52] Speaker A: Like, all those videos of people, you know, walking through the hood with a PS5. I'm like, shit's scripted as fuck. But I'm like, I'm sure it's not untrue.
You know, it's like, oh, yeah. Where you taking that PS5, man? Yo, let me buy it from you. Let me. Let me get it from you.
[01:21:09] Speaker B: I also think the hood is different from what it was back in the day, and I don't think it's as cutthroat as it was back in the day.
[01:21:21] Speaker A: I think it's been gentrified a lot. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and I'm like, that's a step in the right direction. Cool.
[01:21:31] Speaker B: But don't think it's the sub of the right direction because it displaced all those other people. It made new different areas. But that's a different subject.
[01:21:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, we'll get into redlining, and we'll, like.
Like, we'll have to do, like, a. Yo, is this racist episode?
[01:21:48] Speaker B: The answer is yes.
It's always yes.
[01:21:52] Speaker A: I. I don't think it's always yes. I. I feel like, you know, there's some things, you know, it's like, you know, why do black people wear a do rag?
And it's like, you know, asking that question is not racist for waves. Yeah, I. I know that, but, you know, or it's like, you know, like. Like, when a white person's like, yo, what is that on their head? It's like, that's a bonnet. It's like, what?
It's like, don't worry about it.
Like, you didn't think I knew what a bonnet was, did you?
Exactly. It's all right.
Yeah, like, I am learned.
I know some stuff.
[01:22:37] Speaker B: It's only because you were poor.
[01:22:38] Speaker A: It was.
Yeah. No, like, I grew up, and, like, there's a black family, like, living across the street, and we hung out all the fucking time.
And, like, it.
Like, it didn't even occur to me that, you know, people were, like, different colors. I'm like, these are just people.
So I'm like, that's how you should raise your kids. Like, don't raise them around like one, you know, race. Like, I remember, like, my friend lt, the first time his daughter saw a black person was like, I don't want to go play with him. He's dirty.
Just like, on the color of the skin because thought like, covered in dirt, and he's like, oh, no, no, no. That's just the color of his skin. You can go play with him. It's fine.
And like, you know, kind of like pinch that, you know, in. In the pinching, like the. The bud, you know, just nipped in the bud. There we go. Like, what am I looking for nipped in the bud? Right away I'm like, good.
So, yeah, I mean, help out your friends that need help on food stamps or, you know, with anything. Just and come together as a community. And you're like, oh, yeah, shit, we don't actually need the government.
Just stop paying taxes.
Actually, that's a bad. The bad idea. The. The fucking IRS will come fucking get your ass. Pay your taxes, do your duty, and hopefully this fucking whole filibuster bullshit ends soon. But we're gonna go ahead and end right there.
Thank you all so much for being here, and we will see you all next week. Bye.
[01:24:19] Speaker B: Peace.