Human Hatred

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Alrighty. Alrighty, everybody. Welcome back to Argue this with Alex the truck in Troniwani. [00:00:08] Speaker B: Yo. [00:00:09] Speaker A: Tron says my voice is going out. I don't know, it's probably because I've been just sitting drinking beer all goddamn weekend and chugging eggnog. You know, I. I don't know. [00:00:24] Speaker B: I've had a beer every day for the past, like six days, which is a lot for me. [00:00:29] Speaker A: I've had like a whole year's worth, like seven beers today. You know, like that, that, that's like. This has been like my vacation weekend. Like, I. I took Friday, Saturday off and. Oh, my God, like, when you work six days a week, every week, and then you just like get an extended weekend, you're like, oh, like, I have to work through Thanksgiving, I probably have to work through Christmas, and I probably have to work through New Year's. [00:01:02] Speaker B: All right, that sucks. But at the same time, you're not a big family person, so it doesn't really matter to you as much. [00:01:11] Speaker A: No, not at all. I mean, like, I. Like, the first is my wife's birthday, but, you know, I'll be home. Like, I'll be coming home like on the 1st and on Christmas. [00:01:25] Speaker B: Right. [00:01:26] Speaker A: You know, unless they, you know, like, okay, you're not going out on, you know, Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve. We're just doing like a little half route or something like that. I'm like, fuck. [00:01:40] Speaker B: That'S fair. I don't care about Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving doesn't matter to me, really. Christmas, I don't care about the whole day off, but I want like the morning off to, like, hang out with Kiddo and then like, New Year's. Meh. Doesn't matter because Kiddo goes over and hangs out with other family. [00:01:58] Speaker A: I feel bad for people that do have to work, like, on Christmas, because there are jobs that are just like mandatory, like hotel jobs, gas station jobs, you know, they can't shut down everything. [00:02:10] Speaker B: We'll check it out. I feel bad for people who have to work and want to spend it with their family where, like, some people don't care and would work and they don't get to work, if that makes sense. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, as a truck driver, you know, I am regional, so I, you know, I go out, stay the night, come back, and I would love to fucking be working. Yeah, I don't care. I don't have kids. [00:02:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:42] Speaker A: You know, I'm not gonna sit there and, you know, watch the, you know, the ball, you know, I don't care about that anymore. I haven't stayed up to mid till midnight in so many fucking years. [00:02:56] Speaker B: All right? I won't lie. I haven't stayed up for a while, and then I got my PlayStation back, and I stay up almost every night, play video games till midnight. [00:03:06] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I can't do that. [00:03:09] Speaker B: But then, like, about, like, right when hitting midnight, 12, 15 hits. I'm like, I'm so tired. [00:03:17] Speaker A: No, like 6 o' clock hits, and I'm like, okay, time to go to bed. [00:03:23] Speaker B: But you also wake up hella early. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I wake up at 2am yeah. So that's why I'm like, okay, I have to at least try and get somewhere close to a semblance of eight hours of sleep. Like. Like I had a, you know, a sleep test, kind of like a janky one. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:41] Speaker A: And they're like, yeah, you have sleep apnea. I'm like, what? Like, yeah, you, like, stop breathing during your sleep. I'm like, yeah, that's fine. Like, so far it's been fine. I'm like, I haven't died. It's like, no, you do. You die all the time. I'm like, it's fine. I'm. I'm not worried about it. And they're like, we're going to get you a CPAP machine. I'm like, oh, no. My wife hates the pap. You know, machine thing. The pap smears. It was like trying to hit a joke, and it's like, missed. [00:04:26] Speaker B: It was almost there. [00:04:28] Speaker A: It's like it needs, like, a little something else, you know, just like a little spice to throw it in, to connect it. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Some salt. But I don't even know how many people, like, the youngins would understand salt bae. Oh, speaking of youngins, I finally have a way to explain to old people what six, seven means. [00:04:55] Speaker A: Like, what does this mean? I don't know. I don't know what it means. And it makes me angry. [00:05:01] Speaker B: Why does it make you angry? Please explain this real quick. I'm interested in knowing because it's something. [00:05:08] Speaker A: That doesn't make sense. And, you know, kids will be 6, 7 and giggle their ass off, and, like, they don't even know why they're laughing. [00:05:19] Speaker B: All right, so first, before I preface what it means and stuff like that, right? My dad, who's really funny because he saw it in the news and he's like, I don't understand what this is. Is it like 18 sub? Because he comes from, like, the hood type. And I'm like, no, you're. You're already putting way too much law into this. He's like, well the news brings it up. And I'm like, I know the news is an idiot. So check it out. 67 means nothing. Same as like when Dave Chappelle did I'm Rick James. And so all the kids were just walking around yelling on Rick James. And some of the kids were even. Or a lot of the kids were even yelling even though they don't even know the show or seen the show or same as like when what's it called? Skeet. Like ah, Skeet ski came out and everyone was all like, you had tons of white kids that didn't know what skeet was and they're just yelling it all. It, it means literally nothing. It's just a cultural like verbiage thing of like haha, in joke it comes from. So there's two like origin stories from it. But like from what I gather and from what I know, it comes from a rapper with a rap song and he's talking about driving down 6 7, but he's talking about like the freeway that he's on. But then like kids just took that went ham with it. It's the same as like chicken jockey and like how that went around and everyone started just freaking out. [00:06:44] Speaker A: It went like. It literally Chicken jockey was like a week and then it's like boom, done. [00:06:48] Speaker B: Yeah. But it literally means nothing. It's the same as our generations. I'm Rick James. And everyone just yells it and is like in on the in joke. But it means there's no real in joke. [00:06:58] Speaker A: So I never have said I'm Rick James. [00:07:02] Speaker B: You never was part of that? [00:07:04] Speaker A: I was never. [00:07:04] Speaker B: I was, but I also watched the show. So I, I watched the show. [00:07:08] Speaker A: I'm like, oh yeah, that's funny. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I love that skit. Rick James bitch. Pow. Hey, what'd five fingers say to the face slap? That was my favorite joke in that whole skit. [00:07:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean Dave Chevelle is a funny dude. And I feel like some comedians just get pushed too much to where it's like that's the only person you see. Like you'll see like a hundred comedians and you know, then there's like these lower tier, like these, you know, B class, you know, comedians that are very funny as well. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Okay, hold on, wait. I like to push back on this. First of all, I'll preface this. I do not like what Dave Chappelle has turned into now. But I also think that like so part of comedy and stuff is no like being in the in culture. And I think Once you make X amount of money, you're not part of the. In culture anymore. So, like, some of your jokes just don't land as much as it used to previously. And I do think Dave Chappelle worked his ass off to get to where he was, like, culturally with, you know, because, like, nobody even knew him really, from half baked or anything, like, you know what I mean? I did know you did, but no, like, a lot of people didn't really, and stuff like that. And he was in a couple other, like, small things, so I do think. I don't think he was. And then he's one of the ones that he walked away at the height of his fame where, like, who's. What's the other dude that. There was Carlos. Was it Carlos, Mancia and Fluffy. There were two of them that I feel were really, really pushed. And they never, like, Dave Chappelle had a psychotic breakdown, which also is part of him just walking away, but outside of his name. But like, those other people, like, there's a lot of people. I do agree with you that, like, they were pushed and then they just stayed up there, if that makes sense. [00:09:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, there's so many comics that, you know, are like, you know, have big, massive money behind them to. To get on, you know, HBO and to get on. [00:09:21] Speaker B: I think Kevin Hart's pushed now. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Kevin Hart? [00:09:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Where I think before he was, he was pretty funny. And then like, around the Jumanji error and stuff like that. And like, after he was put in, like, the shitty Borderlands movie and stuff, and like, they kept putting him in everything. Now he's seeing a draft king stuff like, I'm tired of this, man. [00:09:41] Speaker A: I mean, you know, Kevin Hart did, you know, work hard. [00:09:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:09:46] Speaker A: And now he's down, cashing in and selling out. [00:09:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:50] Speaker A: And I'm like, I don't, you know, I don't need to come and support you anymore. [00:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:57] Speaker A: You know, like, you are getting supported by huge money. I don't need to come see your fucking shows. It's gonna be free on YouTube, you know, that's all cool. [00:10:06] Speaker B: So what do you feel about the whole, like, Dubai thing? [00:10:10] Speaker A: The whole fucking comedy festival? Yeah. [00:10:12] Speaker B: The real comedy fest or whatever. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I think, you know, that was just, you know, huge amounts of fucking money that got, you know, sent to fucking comics. Like, hey, we'll pay you $200,000 and pay for all your shit if you come out here and do some comedy and be like, yeah, of fucking course, you know, and some of the higher Names, I'm sure got a whole lot more fucking money because they're trillionaires out there. Money means nothing to them. But, you know, like, I. I'll probably get in trouble for this. The UAE runs off of slave labor. [00:10:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. No, no, I was agreeing with you. Yeah. [00:10:54] Speaker A: And like, they, you know, like, a lot of people don't know this. They will, you know, pay for people from other countries to come over and work in the hotels and work in hospitality and work in all the things that need to get done, construction and all that. They'll take their fucking passports and, you know, pretty much give them a place to stay and say, hey, if you want your passports back, you have to, like, you know, pay us back. Kind of like the whole, you know, porn star, you know, stripper, you know, thing. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Before we go further, though, you want to say what UAE stands for? [00:11:28] Speaker A: United Arab Emirates or United Arab Emirates. [00:11:34] Speaker B: Yep. [00:11:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:35] Speaker B: Just want to make sure that people knew what UAE was. [00:11:41] Speaker A: And. Yeah, I mean, it's like Saudi Arabia like that, where you see, like, the island that's like a palm tree. Yeah. They destroyed a lot of the world. [00:11:51] Speaker B: I'm gonna say a hot take real quick. And they continue. They're also the government that gave Trump that billion dollar play or two billion dollar play that they have to go through and make sure that's all safe before Trump gets it again, but continue. [00:12:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a lot of shady and, you know, people are like, oh, yeah, no, it's fine, it's fine. I'm like, you know, if you're, you know, sitting here, you know, supporting all this, then, yeah, it's fine. They have oil and they, you know, don't have ethics. And, yeah, like, people are gonna hate me for that and like, oh, how fucking dare you. [00:12:32] Speaker B: So then here's my thing. So some of the comics that went. Absolutely. Understand them going. They're. They've been open about their politics and stuff like that. Comics like Bill Burr and stuff, a little more upset with. Because of how he puts himself to the public and has this public appearance of it. [00:12:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Does that make sense? [00:12:57] Speaker A: Yeah, he. He was like, all the billionaires. We don't need billionaires. [00:13:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:00] Speaker A: And then he went and danced for them. I'm like, okay, you're just a fucking sellout. [00:13:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:06] Speaker A: You know, don't ever fucking, you know, say ever again. The billionaires, because you. You went out and, you know, pretty much ruined your entire goddamn career. You know, you probably lost a fucking lot of supporters doing that, you know, it doesn't fucking matter to you because you already have more money than God, and, you know, you're a multi millionaire, and you could fucking retire tomorrow and be set forever. You, your kids, you know, your wife. Everyone set? [00:13:37] Speaker B: Yep. [00:13:37] Speaker A: Just live off the residuals, you know, and it's like. Like, they don't have to live off residuals. They get just. They throw it in the stock market and be good, you know, it just anytime, like, I. I see, you know, hugely famous comics, you know, begging for people to come to their shows, and, you know, I'm like, you either up something really bad in your life or you just want to get more money. You know, why not, you know, have smaller comics, give them a chance, you know, to come up on stage. Like, Louis CK does that, you know, And I. I love that man. You know, he's hilarious. And he'll, like, just bring, you know, small fucking comics from New York people that no one knows, you know, just here, you. You guys come on up, and I'm gonna go do a tour. You come with me. [00:14:38] Speaker B: That's awesome. [00:14:39] Speaker A: And I'm like, oh, that's cool. You know, and he'll. He'll come in and, you know, he'll make fun of the people that wanted to open up for him in, like, Colorado. He's like, yeah, he's no name. Colorado people wanted to open up for me. Them. I'm like, okay, yeah, that. That's completely valid, you know, and, like. Like, I'll support Louis CK because he lost a bunch of money. [00:15:08] Speaker B: He did. I still don't understand what went on with that, because, like, I thought those were what he. So from my understanding, he. I don't think he, like, sexually harassed woman. He said lewd shit or whatnot to women back in the day, and then that. That was during the whole MeToo movement or whatever. But, like, he was a different person than what he was back then, from what I gather. [00:15:39] Speaker A: I mean, this is when he was in his 20s. [00:15:40] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. [00:15:41] Speaker A: And then they're, like, bringing shit back. [00:15:43] Speaker B: From when he was, but at the same time, just being transparent. I do see why the Z. Azari guy had pushed back after the. During the Me Too movement. So I just want to be transparent on, like, I do see, like, the difference between the two, if that makes sense. [00:16:01] Speaker A: Well, I don't think Aiz Ansari ever really recovered. Let me see. [00:16:05] Speaker B: He never recovered. [00:16:06] Speaker A: Aziz Ansari. Yeah. Let's see if he's actually doing anything. Oh, he actually is doing some shows. You Know, and Indianapolis. Charlotte, North Carolina. [00:16:20] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He didn't fully. He didn't do it like that. [00:16:24] Speaker A: Yeah, he has 1, 2, 3, 7 shows, you know, through next year and, you know, tiny little website and. Yeah, I mean, like, I've seen smaller comics than him, have bigger, you know, tours. [00:16:44] Speaker B: And for the record, I like these. His style of comedy more than I like you, Louis ck. So also wanted to. I see both. Just wanted to explain it all. [00:16:56] Speaker A: Yeah, no, like, you know, he has some good jokes, but yeah, it's like, you know, you can't be a piece of, you know, if you're gonna get famous, you know, just know that everyone is watching you. Like, if you want to be that guy, like, youtubers go down that path, too. [00:17:19] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:20] Speaker A: And I'm like, what the fuck? You have, like a thousand fucking subscribers and you think you're fucking hot shit. Oh, my God, why are you doing this? And, like, they'll get into some, like, real fucking trouble. And I'm like. Like, I feel like, you know, YouTube should, like, do background checks on people before, like, they give them, like, you know, promotions and shit. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Some of. Okay, I agree with you. But again, nuance is key. Same as, like, oh, what's that? What's that girl's name? There's a real recent Twitch girl that at a Twitch con, some dude went up and tried to kiss her, and then she having issues with another dude, another Twitch streamer that they were dating, and, like, a lot of crazy happened. [00:18:22] Speaker A: But anyways, I don't know anyone's name. I don't. [00:18:25] Speaker B: No, that's fair. [00:18:26] Speaker A: Get into the drama. I don't care. That's fair. [00:18:31] Speaker B: I mean, my basic point is, yes, I agree that you should do a background, but some of that stuff isn't going to come up until later. [00:18:39] Speaker A: Well, I mean, like, if you're a YouTuber that's doing, like, kid content, you know, like, there are, you know, people like Blippi, you know, for instance. I don't know if you know who that is. [00:18:51] Speaker B: No, I have no clue what you were talking about. Oh, now I'm super intrigued because I'm usually super hyper into this stuff. Stuff. [00:18:57] Speaker A: He. He's like Steve from Blues Clues, that kind of character. And he does, like, a show on YouTube for kids. [00:19:05] Speaker B: Okay. [00:19:05] Speaker A: Like, anytime I'd go over to Ben's house, like, Blippi would be playing all the time. [00:19:09] Speaker B: So he's like a M. Rachel, kind. [00:19:12] Speaker A: Of, but, like, less political. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Ms. Rachel wasn't really. Ms. Rachel wasn't political. Except for children shouldn't get killed in Palestine. That's the only thing Ms. Rachel has said. [00:19:24] Speaker A: Politically, I'm, I'm. Okay, let's see. Ms. Rachel being political. YouTube's Ms. Rachel and the leftist coming after our kids advert. You know, children in Gaza. Yeah. LGBT issues. Yeah. I mean, but Blippi, yeah, he's just a fucking, you know, kind of a goofy ass dude that just, you know, does, you know, silly shit and that's it. Just all that, you know, it's just like the Wiggles essentially, just with one guy. [00:20:10] Speaker B: No, no, no. We gotta go back to Ms. Rachel being political real quick. So would you call Steve from Blue's Clues political? Because she's just as political as Ste. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Let's see. Steve from Blue's Clues being political. I mean, now, now he's out of it. So like he, he's, you know, away from Blue's Clues. [00:20:41] Speaker B: Everyone knows him as Steve. Like he came back to the world during. What's it called? 4 20. During 2020. For. [00:20:57] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, I'm not seeing like too much like Gaza stuff. And. [00:21:04] Speaker B: I don't think again, Ms. Rachel has said children shouldn't be killed in Gaza. [00:21:11] Speaker A: Talked about children shouldn't be killed anywhere. [00:21:14] Speaker B: So then how is Ms. Rachel saying children being killed in Gaza? [00:21:19] Speaker A: If you take a stance on one side over there, you are saying that the other side should be killed. If you're like, you know, the Palestinians should, you know, rise up. You're saying the Jews should be killed. [00:21:34] Speaker B: Time out. Time out. So you're saying if you say the Palestinians shouldn't die, you were saying the Jewish people should die. That's what your stance is? [00:21:44] Speaker A: Yes. [00:21:45] Speaker B: No, wait, stop, stop. That's where your stance is? [00:21:47] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Okay, so then when you, when I met during the whole George Floyd thing and we said that you should. The cops shouldn't kill innocent people. Your take from that is. So the cops should be killed. [00:22:03] Speaker A: Mm, yeah. [00:22:04] Speaker B: Or. Or would you. Any of the protests of our military shouldn't kill civilians in Afghanistan, Iraq, what's it called, Vietnam, South Korea. You're saying that the adverse is. We are saying that our soldiers should be killed because those are. Nope, nope. That's absolutely wrong in that state. [00:22:31] Speaker A: Yes. The Nazis shouldn't be killing Jews. We should kill Nazis. [00:22:36] Speaker B: No, we're not saying the Nazis. I'm saying when Americas Americans were proven to kill civilians in Iraq in. What's it called, Korea. In what? [00:22:50] Speaker A: You have to take one side or the other. [00:22:52] Speaker B: In Vietnam, your absolute stance Is, hey, we either A, have to say that we have to kill all these Koreans, Vietnamese, or B, we are saying that we have to kill all our soldiers. That's literally what you're saying. [00:23:11] Speaker A: Oh, when people came back from Vietnam, they got off the boat. [00:23:14] Speaker B: No, we're not talking about people coming back. I'm asking this simple statement, yes, Americans. [00:23:21] Speaker A: Wanted the US troops to fucking die for going over there and killing the Vietnamese people. [00:23:27] Speaker B: I don't also time out. [00:23:31] Speaker A: So I mean, it did happen. [00:23:34] Speaker B: You're saying that every person who said that. Because what you're saying with this absolute statement is I as in Tron who said, hey, we should not be in Iraq killing innocent Iraqis. You are saying Tron is saying we should kill US Soldiers or we should. [00:23:53] Speaker A: Kill, you know, the fucking adversary. [00:23:56] Speaker B: No, no, no. [00:23:59] Speaker A: Why are we in Iraq? [00:24:01] Speaker B: Because the simple Statement is with Ms. Rachel is Palestinians shouldn't be killed. Simple statement from Tron is innocent Iraqis shouldn't be killed. Your statement is, or your claim is that Ms. Rachel is saying that the Israelites should be killed because Palestinians kids should not be killed. You are also stating that Tron's are claiming that Tron is saying that US soldiers should be killed because Iraqi civilians should not be killed. And that is a false equation on both parts because again, those words have never left my mouth of. I full heartedly say that it is not implied. You as an absolutist, if you are 100% absolutist in everything you do, yes, then it is implied. But we live in a nuanced society that we've already started the podcast with nuance. And so we live in a nuanced society, which is not an absolute society. So if you agree with one side of anything, does it imply that the other, other side should be killed, should be murdered or should be ostracized, should be exiled? None of those. [00:25:28] Speaker A: I mean, I watch it every day, like in life, you know, real fucking people saying, you know, if you voted for Trump, you should be killed. [00:25:37] Speaker B: So hold on, how many people do you think out of everyone who didn't vote for Trump, Everyone who did not vote for Trump, which in theory is half the country. Little under half, Just under half. So you're saying under half the country is saying that the other half of the country should be killed? [00:26:00] Speaker A: Well, there's a lot of people that don't vote. You just got, you know, like the majority of the vote that did vote. [00:26:08] Speaker B: Right. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Makes sense. Right, so. [00:26:12] Speaker B: So everyone who did not vote for Trump says everyone that vote, everyone who voted for Trump should be killed. That's what your claim is saying. That is a absolute wrong and false equivalency. And just because, like, how do. Where do you get this fact from? Please, please explain this. And you say, Wait, wait, wait. You say you hear this all the time in the real world, right? But in the real world, how many, if just under half the voting population didn't vote for Trump? Who voted? Just under half. You're saying that about one out of every three people that you come across in the world has verbally said, hey, you who voted for Trump should die. [00:27:01] Speaker A: I've heard at least 20 people in real life, in person say, not the Internet, in. In life, saying, if you voted for Trump, you should fucking be put to death. [00:27:13] Speaker B: So I have a few things on this I like to bring up in our previous podcast, but let's start with this one first. So 20 people out of how many people have you come across in real life? I mean, people in the same time. [00:27:31] Speaker A: That want to talk about it, you know, maybe about 200. So that's about 10% of the fucking people that I talk to. Like, I don't, you know, talk politics with any of my customers. These are just people, you know, that I know in life. You know, I go down to Durango and it's like, yep, it is very fucking, you know, Democratic and blue down there. People love Kamala, you know, hate ice. They think people that work for ICE should be killed. [00:28:04] Speaker B: You're so, because of the actions of 10% percent of people, you are now equating 100% of that faction. Like, so then please look up the statistics of politics and mass shootings. Please look up the percentage of Republican. [00:28:38] Speaker A: How many mass shootings were done by Democrats. There is no official comprehensive database that tracks political affliction affiliations of mass shooters in the United States. So nothing, no information about it. And, you know, that's just that, you know, and yes, you can cherry pick and make this guy, this guy, this guy. Oh, and this guy was this guy. You know, it's just. [00:29:14] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no. [00:29:17] Speaker A: I don't think. [00:29:17] Speaker B: Stop, stop, stop. I am putting a whole hard brick wall. Stop. On this real quick. You cannot use this. That statement when just during the Charlie Kirk thing, you're like, hey, that shooter was a leftist. And because of the leftist. Da, da, da. No, you can't then say politically pick and cherry pick. And then because that's exactly what you're doing, then if you're talking about, well, this one Charlie Kirk shooter, but not Bringing up like you, didn't you. [00:29:52] Speaker A: No, I'm sure the guy that killed MLK was a Republican also. Probably a member of the FBI, but, you know, probably a Republican too. You know, the guy that, you know, Derek Chavin, probably, you know, Republican. But, you know, those aren't mass shootings. Those are assassinations. [00:30:23] Speaker B: So then was the person who shot up the mosque a Republican or a Democrat? [00:30:30] Speaker A: Like, which one? [00:30:32] Speaker B: That's the worst question of this in America. But. [00:30:36] Speaker A: Oh, it's not just in America. It's like New Zealand and like that. Like that fucking dude that was like, you know, fucking subscribe to PewDiePie and then he fucking dropped a mosque. Remember that guy? [00:30:51] Speaker B: I do remember that guy. How many, how many mass shootings in a mosque in New Zealand has it been? [00:30:59] Speaker A: Hopefully just one. [00:31:00] Speaker B: And how many mass shootings in a mosque in America has there been? [00:31:04] Speaker A: How many shootings in a mosque in New Zealand has there been? Me, there's been one major shooting in New Zealand. Now do America, how many mass shootings in a mosque has there been in America? Well, there's numerous instances of general anti mosque activity, including vandalism, arson and threats. Public available data. All right, one notable fatal shooting occurred outside a mosque. [00:31:44] Speaker B: They really only are tracking one in that. That's wild to me. [00:31:49] Speaker A: And then they, you know, go back to the Christ Church, you know, mosque shootings. Please Wikipedia. Oh, yeah, there's not that many actually. That's too many, but not that many. [00:32:09] Speaker B: What do you mean too many but not that many? [00:32:12] Speaker A: Okay, does that make sense? [00:32:14] Speaker B: Wait, wait, no, no, no. The proper response is there is less than what I thought there would be, but there are still way too many. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Like the wrong answer would be, oh, wow, there's not enough, you know, something fucked up like that. [00:32:34] Speaker B: Like, oh, God, no, I didn't say your answer was wrong. I just said the correct answer is. [00:32:47] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, there's, you know, okay, a lot of fucking foreign countries, you know, not a whole lot in America. There's 1972 Harlem mosque incident when a New York police officer was, you know, shot and fatally wounded. Yeah, no, I'm not seeing too many. And I'm like, okay, that, that's good. A lot from other countries though, and that, you know, that, that's because that religious hate really comes in. [00:33:28] Speaker B: What? [00:33:29] Speaker A: Well, let's see. How many shootings on Catholic churches has there been in the United States? Lists of attacks and houses of worship in the United States. There we go. Okay, this is. Yeah, I mean there, there's a lot anti Taiwanese you know, sentiment. Like Woods. [00:34:06] Speaker B: I like how it's just non denominational in the domestic dispute, but a total of six. Like, what the fuck? Like, holy shit. Dude. That was a wild domestic dispute, if that's just what they're saying. [00:34:20] Speaker A: Oh, I mean, yeah, no, he, he was non denominational. He was doing a supervised visit of his, you know, with his three kids. And that was only a few years ago. [00:34:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:38] Speaker A: You know, black supremacy. White supremacy. White supremacy. No. [00:34:43] Speaker B: What is 49? I don't even remember. Do I remember that? [00:34:50] Speaker A: Sutherland Springs. Yeah, that was, you know, huge. Yeah, that, that wasn't a bad one. [00:35:04] Speaker B: Oh, it was the First Baptist. Okay, There you go. [00:35:07] Speaker A: Yeah. First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs. And yeah, it was. I remember that one. That was really bad. Yeah. This is a too long of a list. Jesus. Okay, good. The list. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Do they just start recording it in 84? [00:35:38] Speaker A: In 1884. [00:35:41] Speaker B: So was there not one for almost a hundred years? [00:35:47] Speaker A: Probably not. Or they just, you know, didn't, you know, notice them for 100. [00:36:00] Speaker B: Almost for 100 years. [00:36:04] Speaker A: And then the KKK came in, like, all right, let's fucking start recording again. [00:36:08] Speaker B: Is it between the KKK and the next one that was 20 years. And then all of a sudden they're. [00:36:14] Speaker A: Just like, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, Fucking rapid fire, you know, 2000-2002-2005-2006, 2007-2008-2009-2010. Oh, we got a fucking little reprieve. 2012-2015-2017-1819, 22, 23, 24. Oh, no, the. These years, 25. But yeah, I mean, you, you see, yeah, Catholic church, Church of the Latter Day Saints, Baptist, non denominational Protestant, you know, this one was just one. Islam, Presbyterian, non denominational Judaism. Yeah. Not, not a whole lot of, you know, Islamic churches. [00:37:25] Speaker B: Way more, what's it called, Mormon churches than I thought. [00:37:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been Baptist too. Like, I'm surprised, you know, people are, you know, not coming after. What's that one crazy ass church that like goes and like pickets, like soldiers, funerals and. [00:37:49] Speaker B: Oh, that's an awesome one. I can't think of the name of it. Oh, I can't think of the name of it right now. I know which one you're talking about. [00:38:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm like, let's see. Church that pickets dead soldiers, funerals. [00:38:08] Speaker B: It's one that says God hates fags. [00:38:11] Speaker A: Westboro Baptist Church. [00:38:13] Speaker B: God hates. That's true too. [00:38:21] Speaker A: I'm glad it did not catch that. But yeah, no, that's over in Topeka, Kansas. Yeah. Nobody should, you know, be killed for what they believe in. Oh, that was a robbery. Jesus Christ. Yeah, and just like, seeing, like, resentment. Oh, one injured the perpetrator. Wow. Okay. I mean, I guess they built those LDS churches, like, really well. Just rammed his truck into the church and hurt himself. Yeah. Anti. Anti liberal sentiment. [00:39:20] Speaker B: For what? Unitarian universe. I've never even heard of that denomination. [00:39:29] Speaker A: A liberal religious tradition characterized by theological diversity, inclusivity, and social justice. Oh, you probably love that. This is kind of your jam. Like, like, no shade or nothing. Just, you know, including, you know, religious, human, humanitarianism, Islam. They just took everything together and yeah, it's not terrible. [00:40:07] Speaker B: Intellectual freedom and inclusive love. I am down with that. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Until they're like, all right, everyone drink the Kool Aid. The comments coming. [00:40:17] Speaker B: Hopefully it's grape flavored. [00:40:21] Speaker A: Grape drink. [00:40:23] Speaker B: Purple drink. [00:40:25] Speaker A: You call it purple drink. Like, you're not the only black guy I know. [00:40:32] Speaker B: I know. I bet you when the other black guy, you know, was younger, that's what they called it too. [00:40:45] Speaker A: I know a bunch of black guys. [00:40:48] Speaker B: No, you only know two. [00:40:50] Speaker A: Only know two. [00:40:51] Speaker B: Only two. [00:40:54] Speaker A: I know a ton. Like, I'm not that racist. Like, I feel like, like everyone has a bias and they're like, yeah, yeah, like, and then there's like, people like Nick Fuentes that just like, kind of, you know, go a little too far. [00:41:20] Speaker B: Oh, dude, I'm part of the gorpers. [00:41:22] Speaker A: Are you? [00:41:23] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Duh. [00:41:26] Speaker A: I'm like, I don't know if you're being serious. I feel like you're being serious. I'm like, I haven't watched enough of them. And I'm not. I just, I don't. I'm like, okay, yep, nobody seen enough. And I don't go and hate watch stuff. Like, I don't understand people that do. They're like, I don't like what he's saying, so I'm going to go watch everything that he said. [00:41:51] Speaker B: So, all right, what do you consider hate watching? Let's get to this definition first, because I wouldn't say that I would watch everything anyone who I disagree with ever puts out. Like, I'll be honest with that. But I will watch, you know, stuff that goes viral or stuff that, like, is trending. I'll be like, hey, what is this guy talking about? That I do not like, just so I at least know how I'm going to counter this type of subject. Hence why I understand and know what Fox and other stuff says and how their. Their arguments, because I pay attention to that. [00:42:33] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, like if, you know. [00:42:38] Speaker B: Because I consider that being informed. [00:42:40] Speaker A: If you get a clip of something camo, if you get like a tiny little clip of something you're only seeing, you know, through the keyhole and be like, okay, I, I see, you know, what they're showing me. [00:42:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:56] Speaker A: And you know, a lot of, you know, these speeches are really boring and they suck. [00:43:01] Speaker B: Right. [00:43:02] Speaker A: And you know, that's just how that goes and that, that's fine. But in all reality, you know, sometimes you do have to watch the entire speech to hear the context of what that clip is actually about. [00:43:19] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. So like Zoramudani, when he, one of his speeches were trending and Fox was using it as like, well, he was going for. I forgot what it was exactly. I then, instead of just watching that Fox scene, watch the whole speech. Or when I don't watch the Young Turks that much anymore because I feel that they're just not what I'm into as much anymore. But when they're, they would say something of like, well, Fox or Tucker Carlson has said this on his show, then I would watch that show that they're referencing in its entirety to then get the grasp that now I don't think that is hate watching. Whereas in, if I watched all the Tucker Carlson stuff, then I would consider that hate watching. Does that make sense? [00:44:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, there's people that, you know, hated Charlie Kirk. They, you know, hate Ben Shapiro. They hate, you know, Tucker Carlson. They hate, you know, all these people and they're, they'll just sit there on YouTube for hours, you know, piece of. And they'll just like watch clips over and over and over again and watch other people's takes on their stuff and like watch their stuff and watch, you know, small portions, you know, it's like, oh, no, I don't, I don't like what, you know, he's saying. It's like, then stop watching it. [00:44:39] Speaker B: Well, okay, Charlie Kirk's a perfect example. Then when the example that I was talking about of qualified pilots and stuff, right. I. So he said that on multiple of the turning point things. So like, I haven't watched all of them obviously, but I have watched a couple of his speeches when he was talking about that. That's why I have my own it Personally, I feel informed opinion on that. But again, I haven't watched all of it now because I haven't watched all of it. I think I've watched it to get informed. But if I was hate watching, then I would be watching all of it. Does that make sense? [00:45:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, I feel like a lot of, like, I feel like America at this current point is less racist than it was where they're like, you know, oh, this is a whites only bathroom. This is the whites only water fountain. You know, we're no longer in that, you know, period. And, you know, yes, we, you know, still have some toes back in those days. You know, we still have, you know, remnants of redlining, you know, remnants of, you know, just generational hate. You know, your granddaddy hated black people. You know, your daddy hated black people. And, you know, that kind of got passed down to you a little bit. It's like, I don't want to see you bring home any, you know, black men as boyfriends, that type of shit. [00:46:09] Speaker B: I think openly, outwardly, racism has died down a lot in America. I think depending on if you're raised in a city or if you're raised in a town, how racism then has intersectional aspects in your life. So I just want to be transparent there because I've lived in a few small, all white towns and they don't mean to be racist, but they say or do some racist stuff. [00:46:43] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, you know, there, there's a difference between being racist and being hateful and being ignorant. [00:46:51] Speaker B: No, you don't have to be hateful to be racist. You could still be racist without the intent of being hateful first. Just want to be transparent on that too, because you could be like, oh, well, I'm ignorant that all black people are thugs. So I am going to treat all black people like thugs. I don't have any hate in my heart because of that, but I'm going to clutch my purse. That's still racist. It's not. Again, hateful. I mean, like, when I walk by an old lady and she's getting out of her car and she looks up and sees me, gets a scared face, closes her door and locks it, waits till I walk inside. That's racist, not hateful. [00:47:37] Speaker A: How do you know what that lady's story is? How do you know that? You know, what if, like two weeks ago, you know, two young black men, you know, the Y end, came up, beat the shit out of her, took her personal cell phone, you know, and. [00:47:53] Speaker B: So, because again, we go back to the same thing of that I was trying to talk about earlier, where you're like, yes, because 10% of this group of people did it, then the whole group is in trouble for it. [00:48:06] Speaker A: Well, then it's a fool me once type thing. [00:48:09] Speaker B: No, it's not. Because again, if you take, if you take that and extrapolate it, every person who's white that's never interacted with any other race and they've only had bad things happen to them by white people, they are not then be like, oh, I'm going to hang out with the Mexican because white people got be fucked up because they keep jacking me. Like, no. So again, that is not the same thing. And you laugh, but it's true. Like, let's just be real on that. Like again, the kid who was bullied in high school, in all white high school, like, he's not going to go running to like the black guy or the Hispanic guy or even the Asian guy there, he's still going to go and be like, hey, white friend, I know you. We're going to hang out. But he's. All his life, all the negative has been perpetrated on him has been by the white race. So again, that 10% thing doesn't actually really mean anything in. [00:49:16] Speaker A: See, like, I go by my gut. So like, if my, if I have that gut feeling, correct. [00:49:24] Speaker B: But if you, if you were in a small town and all you know of another race is what you see on movies and TV and stuff, stuff, right. Then when you go and you have that interaction, your gut tells you something that is false and that isn't malice. That's still racist, but it's not hateful racism. And again, I'm just point wanting to acknowledge some of this stuff, like, because these are uncomfortable conversations that people don't want to have, like, have. And these are the type of conversations and like viewpoints that we need to have in order to like, heal as a country and actually get past color blindness and stuff. Because colorblindness is a myth. [00:50:15] Speaker A: Like, you know, I grew up, you know, around a lot of black people. You know, we lived in like a ho dunk, you know, little town. We had like a black family across the street. And like, I didn't, you know, like, yeah, yeah, that's fine. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Did you hear your verbiage? You had a black family that lived across the street because they're the only ones with kids. [00:50:39] Speaker A: You know, I didn't know anybody else that, you know, lived on the street because none of them had kids. I'm not gonna go to some adult's house and hang out. You know. [00:50:52] Speaker B: It'S just your verbiage you use, it is imply that this is the only black family that lived on the street is all. [00:50:59] Speaker A: I don't know if they Were the only ones. My mom was dating a woman at the time. [00:51:05] Speaker B: What does that have to do with anything else? [00:51:07] Speaker A: I'm trying to be like, I was raised inclusive, okay. And like, I never, you know, I never like, oh, no, they're, you know, black, you know, just. And we went out and played. We out on the woods and, you know, had a good time. You know, they were people. [00:51:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:29] Speaker A: And, you know, I was just raised like that. But, you know, I feel like there's like a lot of people that are only raised around white people. Yeah. Like, their entire life. Like, I have a great example. Like my friend, I'm not gonna, you know, name names, but his daughter, the first time she saw a black kid, you know, she ran up to her dad and she's like, I don't want to play with him. He's dirty. And you know, because, you know, and. [00:51:58] Speaker B: Again, that statement is racist, but not malicious racist. [00:52:04] Speaker A: I mean, it's just. I feel like it's just ignorance, you know, it's not knowing and not knowing is not racist. You know, and then the second he's like, oh, you know, that's just the color of his skin, everything was all good. And then they went out and played together. It was all good. It was, you know, a little wholesome moment. But it's like the first time you see someone of a different, you know, skin down, like, oh, my God. Wow, what is that. [00:52:37] Speaker B: Again? I think racism is ignorance as well. I also didn't. I think you're equating racist acts to then being a racist person. And I don't think that's the same thing. I think to be a racist person and like, the way that we view it has to have that ignorant or not that ignorance, that hatefulness involved. But I think you could be a racist person who's ignorant. And once you have more of that, what's called intersectionality or interconnectivity with a different race, your inner will change. Therefore you become less ignorant and less racist. Because I do think it's easy for, again, all white small town to be like, hey, man, this guy who's driving down the street with tinted widows and is black and listening to rap. That guy's a thug and all that other stuff. But then you hang out with him and you find out he's like a straight A student and whatnot. Like, and you're like, oh, well, this is different and he's cool. Then you are no longer racist and you are no longer ignorant. Now you are enlightened and you are now Understanding. So, again, I just want. Because I do think that is a very good or important distinction that I want to make. [00:54:12] Speaker A: I mean, like, there are. There are more white people I know that will fucking listen to Gold Digger, you know, and by themselves in the car, they will say it and like, oh, my gosh. But it's like, there's like a black guy in the car. The bike. Yeah. You know. [00:54:37] Speaker B: Now there are lefties. I will admit that just what you stated will be like, well, they're not white guys being racist that sees it in his car. I am not that person. So just want to be transparent on that, too and acknowledge that as well. Because there are some wild people that would say that. Same as there are some wild right wings that if you say, well, I disagree with Charlie Kurt, you would be. Well, you should. You shouldn't say that because he got shot. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Those two don't equate. So, like, there are wild people in the world. Wild on both sides. [00:55:16] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, there's always going to be fucking wild people that just say whatever the fuck they want to say. [00:55:21] Speaker B: I would say about 10%, which is also wild. I don't think 10% of a group Action of Popula is indicative to the group. [00:55:34] Speaker A: Like, yeah, like, I feel like. [00:55:41] Speaker B: Hold on, wait, here's a great question. 10% of Swifties that actually voted for Trump. Would you then say that all Swifties are Trump supporters? Because I disagree with it again. I'm just. I'm still baffled on this 10% thing. [00:56:01] Speaker A: I mean, like, I only know of one Swifty that voted for Trump, and I don't know that many Swifties. [00:56:11] Speaker B: That's fair. [00:56:15] Speaker A: And, yeah, I mean, it's. You know, they're like, the people that do not like Trump are not afraid to, you know, be loud about it. [00:56:27] Speaker B: The people who like Trump aren't afraid to be loud about it. [00:56:31] Speaker A: I mean, do you see me wearing, like, a MAGA hat and going around. [00:56:35] Speaker B: And I see way more. What's it called? Trump hats and stuff that. Fuck Trump stuff. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Like, like, on me, though. On me, I. [00:56:46] Speaker B: No, not on you. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Like, I voted for Trump and I do like Trump. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:51] Speaker A: You know, like, I will say that, but do you see me, you know, by, like, going to, you know, Trump rallies and like. [00:56:57] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. No, but I said I would say, well, over 10% of Trump supporters do that. [00:57:06] Speaker A: I mean, just like the fat, retarded ones. That's just, you know, like, the ones that, you know, are like, I believe in America, you know, just like. Like, that Key and Peel skit, Remember the one where they're like, you know, both slaves and they're at the reenactment. [00:57:31] Speaker B: You talk about the one where then they start trying to get auctioned off because other people keep getting picked. [00:57:38] Speaker A: Oh, no, no, no. We're like, they like, show up to a reenactment and they're like, oh, I'm sorry, master, you know. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Yes, I do. [00:57:49] Speaker A: And just like this, like, wine, like, white guy with, like, wicked sideburns, you know, and like, like that guy, you know, being like a Trump supporter, you know, it's like, I don't feel like, you know, we have too many, you know, insane people on our side. [00:58:14] Speaker B: I would say I saw quite a few of them during the no Kings protest. Because again, if everyone was like, well, do what you want and it doesn't matter and y' all are idiots anyways, there's then. There's no point then in blowing smoke and like, you know, harassing the protesters, then. [00:58:39] Speaker A: No, I leave them alone. [00:58:40] Speaker B: I just let them do their own thing. I saw plenty of Trump supporters that. At the no Kicks protest. That was not that way. [00:58:52] Speaker A: Yeah, no, if you have the freedom of speech, the freedom to protest in this country, you know, and that's cool, but, you know, if you want to enjoy that, you know, freedom of speech and that freedom of protest, leave my fucking rights alone too, you know, stop coming after my guns. Stop coming after, you know, all my other rights, you know, Cuz the second this, you know, the second amendment falls, the 13th next. Do you even know what the 13th amendment is? [00:59:32] Speaker B: I. No, off the top of my head. [00:59:38] Speaker A: Off the top of your head. It's the right for women to vote. [00:59:44] Speaker B: How is that correlated? We had gun rights well before we had the right. [00:59:50] Speaker A: It was a joke. It was. [00:59:52] Speaker B: That's fair. [00:59:56] Speaker A: I don't know, it's like, like women. Women don't have guns anymore, and so now they. They're no longer a threat. So I was like, you don't get a say anymore, ladies. [01:00:07] Speaker B: We need to have gut restriction. [01:00:11] Speaker A: Like, like, you know, that's fine. Like, I feel like, you know, everyone has their, you know, own, you know, things that they can say. Like, I was at my friend's memorial last Monday, and there was one guy that I have no idea who the fuck he was. He kept on, like, drunkenly getting up and saying, if you have guns, you need to turn them in right now. [01:00:39] Speaker B: No one needs a gun ever. [01:00:41] Speaker A: And just would not shut up. Just stood up in the middle of other people's speeches and just interrupted them with that horseshit. And like, eventually, like, hey, dude, you stand up again and do some dumb shit like that again, you're out of here. This is not what this is about. He's like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm like, yeah, you can have your political opinions, but there's a time and place for it. You know, in the First Amendment, all it does is prevent the government from restricting your speech. [01:01:17] Speaker B: Correct. [01:01:19] Speaker A: Doesn't prevent your job from firing you for, you know, saying that you hate Trump. [01:01:25] Speaker B: Correct. [01:01:26] Speaker A: You know, now you can sue your job if they. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not your lawyer. I'm not anybody's lawyer. But you possibly could sue your job for wrong. Full termination if they did. [01:01:37] Speaker B: That depends on what state you live in. [01:01:40] Speaker A: If you're at a right to work state, you're kind of out of luck. [01:01:43] Speaker B: Absolutely. That's why I stated. Made that statement. [01:01:45] Speaker A: Colorado is a right to work state. So, yeah, out here, there's a lot of people that lost their goddamn jobs, you know, and, yeah, you know, like, I. I do feel bad for them, you know, that that sucks. Especially if they made a video not saying who they were or where they worked for and other people came out of the woodworks to dox them. That's up. [01:02:15] Speaker B: Weren't you pro. Doxing for, like, the whole Charlie Kirk stuff? [01:02:20] Speaker A: No. [01:02:21] Speaker B: Okay. [01:02:23] Speaker A: But there is one guy, and I'm like, your guy. You guys are gonna go find him, you know, cool. But, yeah, don't. Don't know. [01:02:33] Speaker B: I was talking about, like, you know, people who was like, yeah, Charlie Kirk died and da, da. [01:02:39] Speaker A: No, let them say whatever the they want to say. And if someone does recognize you, you know, and your job recognizes you, you know, that could be bad for, you know, your employer and, you know, cost them business because one of your employees is so far on the other side celebrating a man that got murdered. [01:03:01] Speaker B: You're speaking in shadowy speak, though, because you're like, well, if you're a player or someone knows that you then, like. [01:03:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not saying. I'm not saying go out of your way to fucking find out who they are. Don't go some fucking, you know, oh, we're hacking the mainframe type shit. Okay, this is where the guy is. [01:03:21] Speaker B: So Rando doesn't go. But say Bob recognizes Tom. Should then Bob tell Tom's employer if he wants to. [01:03:31] Speaker A: Yeah, that's, you know, perfectly. You're right. [01:03:33] Speaker B: So then is it that in theory, in the same essence, doxing Tom by Writing him out to his employer. [01:03:44] Speaker A: Because, no, if you write him out to the Internet to random fucking people. Like, for instance, there was a video on Facebook that involved, like, one of my company's trucks, you know, and it was like, seven, one, nine, can't drive. [01:04:02] Speaker B: And, hey, I'm part of that Facebook group. [01:04:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a great group. I love it. And, you know, my, you know, boss was there. He's like, holy. I heard there's a video on, like, Facebook. And I, like, pull it up. I'm like, oh, yeah. Yep, sure it is. You know, and, like, our trucks have numbers on the back. So it immediately told them who it was, and nothing really happened. It's just like, hey, don't do that. Don't be a fucking video on Facebook. It looks bad for the rest of the company. It shines bad on everyone here. [01:04:38] Speaker B: I don't know. I personally would be like, I see shit. And then I'll talk to that person, be like, yo, you're an idiot. [01:04:47] Speaker A: But no, I like, if someone's driving bad, I don't say. I don't call their company. I don't do anything. No, I leave it the fuck alone. Unless they are purposefully, you know, going out of their way to fucking be a dumbass dickhead, then I will call the cops. [01:05:02] Speaker B: But I thought you just said that you brought it up to your job with. [01:05:05] Speaker A: No, no, my job brought it up to me. [01:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And then I would be, okay, I don't know what you want me to do about. And then later, I'll look it up. [01:05:14] Speaker A: But again, no, no, they're like, you know, they already knew about the video. They. They already had seen it, and they're like, hey, does anybody have, you know, access to, like, this Facebook group? Because it was like, one of the higher ups, you know, that were in town. He's like, I want to see this video. You know, rather than him having to go, you know, hunt it down. I'm like, oh, yeah, no, here it is. It's on the Facebook group. He's like, oh, okay. And nothing happened. [01:05:50] Speaker B: That's fair. [01:05:52] Speaker A: You know, now we all have cameras in our trucks that fucking, you know, watch us all the goddamn time. And, yeah, if anything up happens, it's like, it records automatically. I'm like, okay, cool. I'm not phased. But I mean, honestly, I've, you know, personal opinion. Company trucks shouldn't have cameras that face inside. [01:06:19] Speaker B: They shouldn't. [01:06:20] Speaker A: But, you know, I see why they do. It is a liability, you know, Are you on your phone? You Know you can prove that. Hey, they weren't on their phone. They were, you know, 10 and 2 and driving just fine. And this other driver, you know, came in, smacked our truck. [01:06:39] Speaker B: And besides dealing with money, I don't think you should be surveilled. But that's me personally also. Again, that goes with street lights and all the other stuff. But we live in such a surveillance state. [01:06:53] Speaker A: It's those flock cameras need to go. [01:06:56] Speaker B: All the cameras need. There's so much stuff that needs to happen. [01:06:59] Speaker A: No, it's an AI camera system like in Denver. [01:07:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [01:07:02] Speaker A: And yeah, they're using it to fucking like track people the fuck down. Like. [01:07:06] Speaker B: Correct. [01:07:07] Speaker A: That needs to fucking be gone. [01:07:08] Speaker B: Correct. [01:07:09] Speaker A: I also think red light cameras need to be gone. [01:07:11] Speaker B: Again, I agree with you. Now cameras I do think should be around still are in like parks and other stuff like that. And that's just for, you know, not necessarily public safety because it doesn't stop anything. But there are a lot of domestic. [01:07:33] Speaker A: Violence and give everyone a gun, guarantee it goes away. [01:07:38] Speaker B: No. [01:07:40] Speaker A: It'S like if I, you know, like there's that everyone should already assume. [01:07:46] Speaker B: Everyone has a gun in America because everyone fucking America has so many guns and it hasn't stopped anything. [01:07:52] Speaker A: I mean, I like, personally, I feel like only like maybe 60% of Americans have guns. [01:08:00] Speaker B: 60%. So. So it. You have a less than a 50, 50 chance that whoever you engage with is going to have a gut anyways. So again, I don't, I don't think giving everyone a gun is going to make that big of a difference. [01:08:17] Speaker A: Make it 100 chance. It's like, you know, are you gonna go in and rob that store, you know, and have the chance that eight people, you know, immediately draw down on you. You're not going to do anything stupid because you're going to die. [01:08:36] Speaker B: I don't think people should die over robbery of a store. [01:08:39] Speaker A: No, I, I don't, you know, feel like that either. But you know, if you're going to around and find out, you're going to around and find out. But with, with that, we're going to go ahead and end this episode. We've been running long and fucking wildly off the tracks. But until next time, we'll see you all later. [01:09:02] Speaker B: Peace. [01:09:02] Speaker A: Peace.