Conspiracy Theory

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Alright everybody, welcome back to another episode of Argue this with Alex the Truck and Tronny Wanney. Yo, and today is Tron's birthday, yo. We're not gonna sing him happy birthday, but it is his birthday, so you know, like thinking your happy, happy birthday. Tron, you're the one that has reason in this show. That other fucking piece of shit doesn't know what he's talking about. No, it's fine. But this week we are doing conspiracy theories, you know, like a little bit of a lighter episode, you know, just, just kind of, you know, taking a step back and we're gonna just jump right into it. I haven't told Tron my conspiracy theories on, you know, the whole, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and all that. So I, I'm, I'm gonna put out my conspiracy theory because, you know, everyone else has put out theirs. Jeffrey Epstein was, you know, trafficking a bunch of people to his island. And the plane was never called the Lolita Express, by the way. That, that was just a nickname they had for the plane. It was probably called something boring like a 173B, right? You know, like that's just like the, you know, the nicknames the locals had for, you know, his plane. But, you know, that's neither here nor there, you know, and they'd fly, you know, rich people, you know, and young looking women and children, you know, that's been proven to his own private island. And then he would blackmail these world leaders through just sending in young looking women. And they would trust that Jeffrey Epstein sent in someone of legal age, but he sent in a 17 year old that's looking to make $10,000 pretty quick. He's like, hey, yeah, here's $10,000. Go in there and suck that dude's dick. And then he came back with the videotape of him getting his dick sucked, you know, by a 17 year old. He's like, hey, now you have to do exactly what I say or else this sees the light of day and you never do ever again because you're gonna be in a jail cell. And so, you know, Bill Clinton obviously, you know, had, you know, the dress, you know, picture up on his wall. And some of them kept on coming back. They're like, daughter, I love this. And some of them are like, no, I don't want any of that. You know, and I feel like Trump was one of the ones that didn't want any of that. Because, you know, it has been said that Trump liked cucking his friends and fucking, you know, his friends, wives, you know, so there's been no, you know, proof that Trump did anything wrong. I will say that, but I'm biased and that's fine. And so Jeffrey Epstein kept doing this and he got world leaders from other countries, you know, to, you know, get on his plane and go to his private island and enjoy all his wares until they got blackmailed by him, you know, to do the things that he wants. That's why he kept on gaining wealth and gaining power. Hey, you get your friend, you know, and Ghislaine Maxwell, you know, handled the girls. Hey, you get your friend and you know, know everyone will meet at this island. And so the reason that the list cannot come out is a Donald Trump does not have the power, you know, by himself to release the full list because we need to protect the identities of all the victims that were there on the island, you know, because if, you know, all these victims, you know, were named, you know, guess what? Now there's, you know, witnesses that are now in danger by multi billionaires and other world leaders are probably on that list with proof of the things that they did. And now you're making, you know, many other world leaders in the world mad at America so they cannot release this list. Otherwise, you know, oh look, you know, 17 other countries now want to fucking nuke America because their, you know, own citizens saw what they did. So. [00:04:34] Speaker B: In her trying to grasp slash entertain this, you are saying Trump is not releasing the list for America's security. [00:04:44] Speaker A: Yeah, firm. [00:04:46] Speaker B: That's what we're arguing about. [00:04:48] Speaker A: Number one, he's not releasing the list for the girls, for the victims security because you know, like a bunch of them got paid off. That has been proven, you know, so a bunch of the, you know, the victims, you know, they're like, okay, here's a cash settlement, this is done. [00:05:07] Speaker B: So are we two parts to this? Yeah, part one is a question I asked. Part two is so now for every person, every victim, that they shouldn't have to be named in any of these cases because for their security, like that's what we're going to go with. So when these girls are being the victims of, you know, P. Diddy, for example, or any of those type of. [00:05:45] Speaker A: People, P. Did, he's in jail and all the victims. [00:05:48] Speaker B: But those victims shouldn't be named because they have, what's it called, they are naming names of higher power people who can kill them. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Yeah, that, that's exactly it. You know, it's like so. [00:06:01] Speaker B: No, that's wild cuz Jeffrey Epstein was, you know, no, stop that's wild. Cuz you've like distinctly I remember arguing over Donald Trump's victim victims and them not being named in Europe. And y' all were like, well, they need to be named. Why is it different like that? [00:06:25] Speaker A: That I. I wanted wild loop to say how many. [00:06:29] Speaker B: You either have to choose one or the other. You can't do it. Like, this is not a case by case thing. This is legitly. Like either a, you believe that all victims have to be named or. Or B, you believe victims should be able to come out without being named. I don't understand the difference because here's. [00:06:49] Speaker A: The thing, you know, imagine, you know, I say, you know, someone punched me, and you're like, okay, who punched you? Just someone. I don't need to say who. It's like, well, then no one punched you. It's like, no, I can see I have a bruise on my face. Someone punched me. It's like, well, what do you want us to do about it then? It's like, well, I want you to, you know, punish the people that punched me. It's like, you know, see, like, so everyone, you know, needs to be named. You know, it's kind of like reversed it, you know, but, you know, if you don't name the victims, you know, there was no victims then. And if the victims don't come out, like, some of them have come out and none of them have been like, yeah, you know, nothing. Like, none of them are like, yeah, Donald Trump is like one of them. Like, they would have used that in the election. They'd have been like, oh, yeah, look, here's Donald Trump right here, you know, doing all these terrible things. And then, pretty sure a couple of. [00:07:55] Speaker B: Them have said that Donald Trump was there and stuff. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, no, Donald Trump was there 100%. He was, you know, on the island. He took, you know, Jeffrey Epstein's airplane and went to his island. 100%, I can say that, you know, but I, I can't say that, you know, he did anything wrong, you know, just because you were, you know, at an area. Imagine like you're at an area, you know, in an area that's like, notorious for selling drugs. You're like, walking down the street corner and you walk past a bunch of guys and, you know, the cops lose, you know, sight of you, and they're. [00:08:30] Speaker B: Like, oh, you're breaking my brain. Because you, you all, you in the same line of argument. You'll be like, hey, these leftists that are here, they're all being violent because this one group of people were being violent, even though that one group of people was just a group of people in a bigger group of people that were not violent. You're like, hey, we have to watch out for all them and do something. It's all them. Like, I don't understand. It doesn't make sense on this. [00:09:00] Speaker A: It's mob mentality, honestly. John, peach beer? [00:09:07] Speaker B: Sure. But it doesn't make sense. [00:09:13] Speaker A: I mean, you know, here. Here's really what it is, you know, just because, you know. Are you saying that everyone that went to Jeffrey Epstein's island, you know, is a pedophile? [00:09:25] Speaker B: No. [00:09:26] Speaker A: Exactly. You know, there. [00:09:28] Speaker B: I'm sure I'm saying this. You should release the evidence so that we should all be awarded. [00:09:33] Speaker A: He's trying, but I don't think he is trying. [00:09:37] Speaker B: If he. First of all, how is he trying? [00:09:43] Speaker A: You know, he. He asked, you know, all of his people to, you know, release the files, But I guarantee you there's a bunch of fucking Democrats that are doing it. Can Donald Trump release the Epstein files by himself? Yeah. No. Donald Trump cannot unilaterally release the Epstein files by himself, especially after leaving office. The ability to disclose these records depends on his status as president and the specific nature of the documents. So he can only release files pertaining to himself. That's all he can release. And then, you know, oh, look, look, Donald Trump's on the island. Oh, look, he's on the island. You know, here's npr. This is a very leftist. [00:10:28] Speaker B: You know, NPR is not leftist. [00:10:30] Speaker A: Oh, it's very leftist. [00:10:31] Speaker B: No, it's not. NPR is like the centrist of all of them. They're like. Like, if we're going down air quotes, the things it'll be, NBC is left, NPR is middle, Fox is right. That's literally how it would be. And I don't even think NBC is real left, because I don't think there is a real left. [00:11:00] Speaker A: I mean, you know, how easy is it to redact information they covered? You know, but, yeah, like, NPR has a whole document, you know, like. Like, here's what I want, you know, to be released. It is Trump's tax records. Release those. [00:11:26] Speaker B: You know, why not release both? Because originally, Tron ran. Trump ran on. I'm gonna release it. Well, I guess technically he didn't run on it, that he got asked and then he said, yes, he would release Epstein files. That actually said, I'm not so sure about that. There's some names in there that, you know. [00:11:49] Speaker A: Yeah, so what. What if, you know, what if Putin's on that list? [00:11:53] Speaker B: Then. So America should not. Or we say that America should go ahead and block other world leaders from being exposed. No, America doesn't protect the world. Other world leaders. [00:12:06] Speaker A: So, okay, okay, imagine this. Imagine that the full, you know, Epstein files get released. And, you know, President Xi is on that list. You know, President Putin's on the list, you know, and a bunch of, you know, world leaders that have nuclear power and, you know, they're now having to deal with a bunch of on their end, and they're like, you know what? Fuck America. And they just send 10 nukes, you know, each, so 20 nukes or more to America. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And, you know, we lose, you know, 120 million people. 120 million people dead now and cities devastated because, you know, people wanted to, you know, see a file that they can't do anything about. You know, they. There's nothing that any American, you know, can do about anything on that list. Can you do anything? You know, if you had the, you know, full Epstein files in your hands and you saw all the names, you're like, oh, here's every fucking name, you know, on that list. Here's all the people that were there. Okay, cool. You know, what can you actually do about it? You know, we have, you know, say, you know, 100,000 people show up at the White House and make, oh, but guess what? Now you have to, you know, start taking down everyone on that list. It's, you know, what if Obama was there? [00:13:30] Speaker B: What if the list should still be out? [00:13:35] Speaker A: You know, like, you know, nothing you. [00:13:39] Speaker B: Can say that changes the list should be out. The thing you are pointing out is how made America is how America is not the big boy of the world. [00:13:51] Speaker A: It's not. [00:13:52] Speaker B: America has to capitulate to other countries, which then leads us me to also be. The tariffs are all for show. There's America has no go and we should stop trying to tell everyone else what to do. Since Putin and Xi are together, they should. We should listen to whatever they say. Oh, yeah. [00:14:16] Speaker A: Oh, no. [00:14:16] Speaker B: We're like, otherwise, what's stopping Putin and Chief for just being like, hey, you know what, America, you aren't giving us Ukraine. We're going to fire these missiles at you. [00:14:28] Speaker A: Like, oh, because we would absolutely devastate. You know, like, that would be 120 million dead here in America and then all of China, all of, you know, Russia dead. [00:14:39] Speaker B: So then why use the argument that you're trying to use now of what if Putin and G are on the thing and then they. It's released and they get mad at America and then they shoot nukes. Because, yeah, like, I mean, there's no that. It's no. [00:14:58] Speaker A: Are you willing to fucking, you know, expose 700 people, you know, at the cost of losing, you know, a billion is a billion lives worth and world war and, you know, the future. [00:15:15] Speaker B: So then when do. When does atrocities to other humans, when does that scale balance, like, tip, like, how much fucked up shit can people do to other people before we do something? Or do they just do so much they get away with it because they could go ahead and exact revenge? [00:15:40] Speaker A: Well, here's the thing. [00:15:42] Speaker B: If that's the case, then why then were we going after Hamas? Why were we going in Afghanistan? Why were we doing all that? If again, they were. [00:15:55] Speaker A: Oh, cuz they're brown of the lives. That's it. They're brown. We don't like them. You know, we can just label any brown guy, you know, from the Middle East a terrorist. And America's like, hell yeah, we're not gonna do any research. We're not gonna actually see what the fuck's going on. We're not gonna be like, oh, you know, what, what is, you know, Hamas actually doing? You know, because guess what, there's fucking, you know, people running for government positions over here that support Hamas. You know. [00:16:27] Speaker B: I don't think anyone who's running for government supports mosque. I think people who are ready for government supports palace. [00:16:35] Speaker A: Favorite part of the podcast. Which politicians in the United States support Hamas. [00:16:48] Speaker B: There you go. [00:16:54] Speaker A: United States politicians with Hamas. [00:16:57] Speaker B: You didn't want to read that. It says no credible. [00:16:59] Speaker A: Right? No credible. [00:17:02] Speaker B: Yeah, again, there's politicians that support Palestine. [00:17:17] Speaker A: Let's see, Trump's Gaza deal. I mean, honestly, you know, like, like who owned it first and then that's who gets to keep it, bro. [00:17:37] Speaker B: If that was the case, the state of Israel wouldn't exist because the state of Israel was created after World War II. Like, other countries owned it first. And we as the allies are all like, yeah, y' all own this, but we're going to go ahead and give this to the Israelites. [00:17:55] Speaker A: Oh, damn. Then, you know, using my logic, I. I'm the bad guy. You know, just, just, you know, bring all the Jewish people over here, you know, kick everyone out of New York, Give, you know, New York to the Jews. [00:18:10] Speaker B: That's. You shouldn't be kicking anyone out of anywhere. That's what I'm starting with first. [00:18:17] Speaker A: I mean, you can, you can, you know, kick everyone out of New York. Yeah, this is, you know. [00:18:25] Speaker B: We'Re not resettling. [00:18:32] Speaker A: I mean, I, I, I don't know enough about the whole, you know, Palestinian, you know, Israeli conflict to really comment on it. So I, I stay out. [00:18:42] Speaker B: You brought it up. [00:18:47] Speaker A: Oh, because, you know, you said Hamas. I didn't even know that Hamas was Palestinian. You know, like the Houthi terrorists and all that. You, you just, you know, give them a, you know, silly name and say terrorists and we're like a, you know, hell yeah, blow them up. You know, isis, silly name. Brown guys. Blow them up. [00:19:12] Speaker B: Technically it's isil, but us Americans can't pronounce it, so. [00:19:18] Speaker A: Yes. And then we shorten it down to ICE and then bring them over here. These guys are terrorists too, because it's so close to isis. Oh, no. Oh, terrorism. I saw a video online of a dude, you know, with a, you know, face covering and a head scarf shooting an AK47. That must be terrorism. And, and I, I truly, you know, and Americans, like red blooded Americans are like, hell yeah. It's not me. Blow them up. And it isn't, you know, an arrogant, ignorant thing, but, you know, I'm not going to do any of my research and it's not like I can stop them from blowing people up. Go ahead and blow him up. If you really don't like him that much. Go blow him up. Go. Yeah, my blessing. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm, I understand I'm the bad guy here. I get it. I, I, I see you, you know, looking at me with disdain. You're like, oh, God, I'm friends with this guy. He's the worst. It's like, you know, if the United States military wants to blow somebody up, blow them up. You know, what are we gonna stop them? Nothing. [00:20:42] Speaker B: So you believe in this extrajudicial killings that we've been doing over those boat boats that we've been saying that they're drug runners and we've just been blowing them up instead of, you know, capturing them. And how cool is it to blow. [00:20:58] Speaker A: Up a boat though? Like, you know, think about in your head just like seeing like a boat go. [00:21:05] Speaker B: We should use automation for that to have fun. [00:21:08] Speaker A: Yeah, an automated turret, great idea. I love that even more. Not like an AI turret. That's like brown guy detected. Yeah. And then a commercial flight flies over overhead and you're like, you see it like, look at it like, what is that? You're like, no, no, don't. That, that's American Airlines. Okay. And then Delta flies over. Don't, that's Delta. And then Spirit flies about, shoots them Right out of the sky. [00:21:44] Speaker B: So many planes have been shot out of the sky. Down. It hurts. It just hurts. Cuz I ran. Shot down a plane of passengers recently. [00:21:57] Speaker A: Yes. Don't fly to terrorist areas. Learn your lesson. Also don't fly Spirit Airlines. Fly American Airlines. You know, if you can't fly American Airlines, you can't afford to fly at all. [00:22:17] Speaker B: That. We're going to lower flights prices. [00:22:19] Speaker A: Oh, we should. Absolutely. Like, here's the thing. Southwest needs to lower their airline prices because now they're charging for bags. You guys lower your price. [00:22:29] Speaker B: Have a sign CD now. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Yeah, Lower the prices. It. It. It's going to end in fist fights. It's going to be like assigned seating is always hilarious. So like, you know, Budget Airlines. Yeah, it's the funniest thing in the world just to see like, you know, trash people like me be like, hey, I paid for that seat. I want to sit there. It's like, well, I'm. I'm sitting here. It's like, I will fight you right the fuck now. Do you know who I am? I'm American. You're probably not even from here. Obviously, I don't do that, but that's why I'm still allowed to fly. But people in Burger King hats do scream the N word. So, you know, we got that. [00:23:26] Speaker B: I just can't believe you're like, america gets cucked for Jeffrey Epstein. That's your conspiracy theory? [00:23:35] Speaker A: Yeah, my whole conspiracy theory is, you know, you know, if you tell anybody, we're gonna kill you, you know, type shit like that. That's what it is. If you tell anybody what we did, we will fucking kill everyone in America. All of us. We have enough nukes to make it happen. So are you willing to, you know, spit, send your country into war, send your children into war, into a world war, you know, to find out who a pedophile that you know, didn't do anything wrong to you personally, you know, and is already dead and it's already fucking buried and that we might find out some other fucking people did some shit, but the statute of limitations has already ended. You know, are we gonna, you know, you know, are you gonna send your kids to war for that? Because you know that that's. I, I hope there's not a fucking limited statute. Limitation. Is there a statute of limitations on pedophilia? Colorado doesn't have a statute of limitations on criminal or something. Yeah, hell yeah, Colorado. You did something right. No fucking statute of limitations out here, motherfuckers. We'll find you. We'll lock you up, put you in genprop, find out. [00:24:58] Speaker B: Not if you're a world leader with Jeffrey upstie, we're gonna let you go. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Yeah, might as well. Yeah. They're already old. They're already like 90 years old. Like, what are you gonna fucking really do? Like, by the time that the fucking, you know, whole court case has been settled, they're all gonna die of old age anyway. They're gonna fucking, you know, keep it running. Keep it running. Because guess what? You know, they're rich. They have a bunch of money. They can, you know, afford lawyers, and they know how the court systems work. And by the time they're like, okay, you're guilty, they're gonna be a fucking bleach skeleton. [00:25:33] Speaker B: So then are you saying we should give immunity to people over once they reach a certain age? [00:25:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:25:42] Speaker B: Yeah. What's the age? [00:25:44] Speaker A: Fucking 85. [00:25:46] Speaker B: So as long as you make it to 85, you'll be absolved of all your crimes. [00:25:50] Speaker A: Any. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Like, yeah, 100. [00:25:57] Speaker B: There's nothing else to say to that. [00:26:00] Speaker A: I mean, if you make it 85 and you don't get caught, you're absolved. There you go, grandpa. Go ahead and live out your last, you know, 10 to 15, you know, but everyone else gets to know that you did the crime. So if someone, you know, wants to, you know, be a Batman and come beat your ass, they can. [00:26:19] Speaker B: So then why don't we release the files? [00:26:23] Speaker A: Because we're gonna get nuked if we do. Nuclear apocalypse. Like, are you willing to, you know, have, you know. And this is, you know, awful, you know, to have, you know, kiddo be in a world where, you know, the, you know, It's World War 3. You want a peaceful world for kiddo. I already know this. [00:26:49] Speaker B: You want the best. [00:26:50] Speaker A: Here's the. You want the best in the world for your own kid. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Here's the thing, though, my friend, just being transparent. We've already proven that five nations can't agree on anything. Hence the failure of the UN what's going on in Ukraine? What? We've decided to just let pass with Russia. [00:27:14] Speaker A: We need to get out of the United nations that 100. [00:27:17] Speaker B: I don't think that release through the FC files. All the other nations are going to agree to, like, let's go to war, America. [00:27:28] Speaker A: Like, if you re. If you, you know, and then imagine, you know, all, you know, these people, you know, and all the victims. Like, the victims are gonna have to be named too. What if they don't want to be named? What if they do not want, you. [00:27:46] Speaker B: Have most of the victims who have already been named be like, release the files. They've even asked for Trump to release the files. [00:27:54] Speaker A: Yeah, so release the files and redact the names of the fucking people that don't want there. You know, so you have to, like, go and visit with each of them. You know, we're about to release the files. Do you want your name to be in this thing? Because it's not a great, you know, feeling for someone to, you know, come knocking on your front door with the news, being like, hey, you know, we heard, you know, through the grapevine that this happened to you. It's like, I. I really don't want to, you know, dig up the past. Please go away. And then you have, like, you know, 20 reporters on your front stoop, you know, trying to get a story, trying to get an interview, trying to get a statement from you, and the whole world knows who you are now. So you go to work, oh, my gosh. I can't believe you're an Epstein victim. It's like, I really don't want to talk about this. You know, there's. There's a lot of people that had. That happened in their past that they really don't want to talk about. You know, even if they're the victim of it, they really don't want to talk about it. You know, it's like, what was that fuck's name? Tanner. You know who I'm talking about. The. The college rapist. Was it Tanner? [00:29:13] Speaker B: Brock Turner. [00:29:14] Speaker A: Brock Turner. They. I thank you for, like, understanding where my brain was. I. I just had to say college rapist. And you're like, yeah, Brock Turner. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate, you know, you just knowing me. Oh, but, you know, like. Like the, you know, victim. Do you think she wants to be, you know, brought up and being reminded of that? No. That's why, you know, no one, you know, really knows her name. And I. I'm like, good. I'm just gonna leave it there. I'm like, you know, that. That what happened to you is horrible. Everyone should know Brock Turner's name. Beat his ass. Every time you see him. Walks into your bar. Beat his ass. Walks into your town. Beat his ass 100%, but, yeah, so we can't release a, you know, Epstein files because, you know, it's. It's complicated. [00:30:19] Speaker B: It's not that complicated. [00:30:20] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's fine. Yeah. I mean, go ahead and release them, you know, See what happens. What's the worst that can happen? You know, a million nukes come for America, and then we all burn, you know, die of burning, fiery death, you know, And I'm like, oh, told you so. And, like, people, like. And I get to say, I told you so, you know, while burning to death. That. That's cool. And, like, we all, you know, get to have it. And I'm like, I was right. Y' all listen to my podcast. Like, you have a podcast? Like, no one listens to my podcast. But let's jump on to the. The second conspiracy theory I have, which is Area 51. So I. I have a conspiracy theory that there is Nothing at Area 51. Like, it's just a storage facility. It's, like, boring. Like, the most boring place, but they have the highest level of security for fucking nothing, you know, because people are gonna focus all their attention on Area 51 for aliens, UFOs, and all that bullshit. Well, it's like, really being run out of, like, a fucking, you know, area in, like, San Bernardino or something like that, you know? And if I'm right, the fucking government's gonna come fucking knocking on my door. Like, you need to take that fucking podcast the fuck down. I'm like, oh, was I right about San Bernardino? But, yeah, shut the fuck up about it. [00:31:54] Speaker B: Why do you think there's nothing. So do you first. Do you think. There was never anything. I remember 51. It was always like that, or you think it recent, or, like, at some point, it's became that. [00:32:07] Speaker A: I. I feel like the Blackbird, like, the SR22 was developed there. And so that's why they had to have, like, a high level of, you know, secrecy. And, like, they're, like, building, like, spy planes and like that, you know, just, like, you know, that can go way up in the sky that no one can even detect or shoot down. And then, like, after all that shit was done, after all the research was done, you know, people were like, there's aliens there. There's aliens. There's fucking, you know, Martians. And it's crazy. And, you know, the government's kind of, like, leaned into it and, like, amped up security a little bit. And, like, they just, like, do like, some training exercises every now and again and just have, like, high security there, and it's just, like a storage facility for, like, just dumb bullshit, and they fly it in all the time. [00:33:04] Speaker B: And what. What made you decide on this conspiracy? So because you don't believe that aliens never happened at Area 51, correct, is what I'm gathering. [00:33:16] Speaker A: No, I don't think Aliens ever happened. I think something crashed out of the sky and fucking humans will jump to, you know, the craziest solution and never use fucking Occam's razor. [00:33:28] Speaker B: Well, because I believe your conspiracy to a point. I do not believe that it's just empty there anymore. I do believe that we're still using it as secret testing grounds. Maybe not above ground anymore because of, like, satellites and stuff, but, like, I do believe that it's still being used as a test facility. And, no, I do not believe in aliens. [00:33:55] Speaker A: Every time I hear the word satellite, I just, like, think, like. Of, like, a sad light, like. Like a flashlight that's, like, dying. It's like, you know, I'm like, oh, no, my satellite. You know, a little sidebar. It's fine. But, yeah, I mean, I, like, it's. [00:34:13] Speaker B: Funny because my head went in similar way but different. Was thinking of Baymax when you, like. [00:34:21] Speaker A: It'S funny. Yeah. I mean, like, I hear words and my brain's like, yeah, that say that. I'm like, no brain. That's a dumb thing to say. And it's like, see it? I'm like, all right. But, yeah, I don't think there's Anything at Area 51. I feel like it. You know, it's like a joke, a meme at this point. And they're just like, yeah, fucking have all the people focus all their attention. It's a red herring, you know, Same as, like, Fort Knox. I don't feel like there's any gold in Fort Knox. But, you know, it's like, oh, look, we have all the golden Fort Knox. You can't see it. Like, we're never gonna show it. We're never gonna take pictures inside Fort Knox. We have gold in here, and we're gonna fucking severely guard it. And I feel like they're guarding nothing. I feel like they're guarding, like, a note in the middle of the floor that says, iou, Like a bunch of fucking gold. And, like, all the gold is actually being held in, like, China or something like that. [00:35:21] Speaker B: That one also, I could give more. Both of these. I give way more credence to the. This Jeffrey Epstein one. Just. [00:35:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. No, like. Like, this one, you know, is something that I firmly. [00:35:34] Speaker B: But I don't believe a hundred percent that. That there's no gold at Fort Knox. [00:35:39] Speaker A: I do believe there's, like, one gold doughn in the middle of the floor. [00:35:43] Speaker B: I do believe there is far less gold than what is assumed to be in Fort Knox by the masses. [00:35:50] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't have any fucking third party auditors that go into Fort Knox and you know, actually test to see if the gold is, you know, there or if it is there, if it's real, you know, like we have nobody. There's just like a fucking bunch of guys that will shoot on site. Same thing with the fucking, you know, Florentine supermax prison. We have El Chapo, like literally like 45 minutes away from us hurt, you know, so that should make you feel pretty good. [00:36:22] Speaker B: No, I don't believe with supermaxes. [00:36:24] Speaker A: You don't believe in supermax prison? [00:36:26] Speaker B: No, I mean, I know they exist. Let's not talk about like that type of belief and not be a dick. But I don't believe in like I as a person don't believe that we should have super max prisons. [00:36:41] Speaker A: I think we should have ultra max prisons. I feel like we should like, you know, have like prisons that have like explosive collars and like explosive butt plugs, you know, put into people. And like, you know, if you poop without permission, it's gonna explode and it's like, oh, no, I think we should. [00:36:57] Speaker B: Have open prisons like Switzerland. [00:37:02] Speaker A: You're, you're, you're like a step away from being like, abolish all prisons. We don't even need prisons until fucking, you know, people are like, we need prisons. Please help us. We're getting murdered and raped out here. [00:37:13] Speaker B: I think there should be something in between a prison and no prisons. [00:37:18] Speaker A: Yes. Death. Hangings, the gallows. Fucking. What, what's, what's the fucking? The, the, the stockades. No. Yeah, bring back the stockades and fucking, you know, rotten vegetables. I feel like that will teach people lessons. Like, you know, like you get like a white guy that like, you know, did something wrong and you throw a bunch of tomatoes at him. He's like, oh look, he's so mad. He's red faced. It's like, no, that's just the tomatoes. [00:37:48] Speaker B: Why shouldn't we come to agreement of that? We should not punish a society, but we should learn to rehabilitate as a society. [00:37:59] Speaker A: Oh yeah, no, we should rehabilitate people that can be rehabilitated. [00:38:05] Speaker B: So what do we do with the people that can't be rehabilitated? [00:38:08] Speaker A: Oh, I think, you know, I don't, don't do. Yeah, I'm like you, you know me and you know exactly what I'm going to say. You kill them gallows, chop off their head, hang them, you know, do some human experimentation that's like up, you know, do some, you know, like unit like 731 to them. Is it, is it unit 731? Let me say that I don't want to give bad info. Unit 731. Yeah, unit 731. If you don't know, you don't want to know. It's bad. But, like, you can just see the, you know, right here. Yeah, you get it. It was in Japan during World War II. [00:38:56] Speaker B: So here's the issue I have with this. This is where I believe in nuance. Right? [00:39:03] Speaker A: Yeah, let's hear it. [00:39:04] Speaker B: So I obviously, and if it's not obvious, I do not believe in human experience. Experiments, right? Totally wrong. Don't believe in it. I don't think our understanding of the human body and medicine would be as advanced as it is without it. [00:39:31] Speaker A: Yes. Like, a lot of the fucking evil fucks that were in unit 731 got immunity when they came to the United States and in exchange for their fucking research. [00:39:43] Speaker B: Correct. [00:39:44] Speaker A: Like, it was fucked up. In 1936-1945. It was fucked up shit in Japan. Holy fuck. [00:39:54] Speaker B: Correct. I, so I, this is where I say nuance, because I by no means condone it. I would never be like, hey, even for all this bad that there was, at least this came out of it. Like, that's not what I'm saying at all. What I am saying is because this bad happened, we got information as well. Again, not defeated it, but I wanted to acknowledge two things could be true at the same time. That's all. Two things can be true at the same time. [00:40:31] Speaker A: It's like, you know, hey, let's, you know, like, like that dude that injected, you know, mushroom spores into him thinking it would get him high. I'm like, okay, that, that was interesting. You know, you died, but that was interesting. You know, if you're gonna do experimentation on yourself, I'm like, that's one thing. [00:40:53] Speaker B: I also say that nuance thing to point out again, towards the end of this podcast, I wanted to bring up fact that what happened to Charlie Kirk was wrong and he still shouldn't be a martyr. [00:41:11] Speaker A: Oh, don't, don't worry. I, I, I, you know, Charlie Kirk is, you know, saved for the end of this because, you know, there's a conspiracy theory there that, you know, is topical that I have to cover because it is conspiracy theory week. But, you know, this, you know, back to, you know, Area 51, because that's what this, you know, conspiracy theory is about. Yeah, that. Nothing there. You know, nothing there. You know, they just like, like when that dude came with, like, a bunch of Like, Naruto headbands. And he's like, we're gonna Naruto run in there and we're gonna find all the aliens and free them all. I'm like, yeah, that's fucking cool. But, you know, like, how cool would it have been if they, like, got in there and, like, found nothing? Like, it's just storage for, like, files and stuff and, like, extra tires. Like, there's nothing here. It's like, there has to be something here. It's like, there's nothing here. It's like, damn it. And then people would be upset that the government's wasting a bunch of money protecting, like, fucking useless garbage. So they have to now fucking protect it because it's like, it's a huge fucking money pit, you know, because it's fucking nothing now. And they have, like, too much security and they have to keep up that security because if they lower it, people are gonna be able to sneak in. It's like, you have to. You have to kill anybody that you know is about to learn the secret that we have nothing here. [00:42:37] Speaker B: I'm just surprised your conspiracy theory on Era 51 isn't more like it's a super, super max prison that we just don't tell anyone that we put people in. [00:42:47] Speaker A: I like that conspiracy theory too. Yeah, it's just like a fucking deep ass, like, hole from, like, Batman. Like, you know, Bane's prison black site. You know, like Bane's prison and just like a fucking hole. It's like you have one chance to get out. And if you get out and then, you know, get away from all the guards and you're free. You know, like, I. I wanted to be like a. This is a Sparta hole. Yeah, I just, like, kick him down to the well. It's like, there. But yeah, we'll go ahead and, you know, finish off on the. On the last one, which is the whole, you know, Charlie Kirk, you know, was actually murdered by his lapel. Like someone, you know, planted in a lapel that, you know, exploded and shot him in the neck. And the dude on the roof, McGee missed, but he was the one that was blamed. Honestly, we have someone in custody that said that they did it. Yeah, I'd say that's good enough. [00:43:59] Speaker B: Clandest Owens really thinks that it was a. [00:44:04] Speaker A: Who is Clandis owens? [00:44:06] Speaker B: Sorry, sorry. 40 and slip. [00:44:08] Speaker A: Candace Owens. [00:44:13] Speaker B: Candace Owens. [00:44:15] Speaker A: I know who Candace Owens is. I'm like, Clandis Owens. [00:44:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:20] Speaker A: Oh, I forgot my hat. Oh, damn it. All right. [00:44:27] Speaker B: Well, Malcolm. All right, so going on a civil rights real quick. Rant. Malcolm X talked about how there's three types of Negroes with the bill Negro, the house Negro, and, oh, what was the other one? I forgot the other one. But clandestine. Definitely the house one. That, like, she loves her master more than the master loves himself. She'll do it. [00:44:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, there's certain things I can, like, type in my search bar. I can type in, like, Malcolm X3. You know, I was like. Like, they're gonna, like. You know, like, either you're a black man now, you know, who is this? Like. Like, I. I, like. I want, like, type that in my, like, Google search bar. And, like, Google just, like, puts up a page. Who is this? Who is this? [00:45:14] Speaker B: Really? [00:45:14] Speaker A: He's never said anything this fucking crazy before. He doesn't know who Malcolm. You know, he don't know nothing about the white devils. I know it's surprising that I'm a learned man. You know, someone that was, you know, violent that actually turned into a, you know, pretty decent guy. [00:45:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:47] Speaker A: You know, like, oh, he has, you know, glasses. It's like. Or maybe I just watched Longest Yard and I'm like, now I know everything about Malcolm X. I'm glad you got that, too. I'm like, yeah, that. Like, this is a deep cut. Like, let's see if he'll get this. Probably not, though. But, yeah, I mean, yeah, like, sorry. [00:46:19] Speaker B: Two types of Negroes. [00:46:21] Speaker A: Oh, there's only two types. [00:46:22] Speaker B: Okay, because what's it called? He talked about the fill Negro and. Yeah. [00:46:32] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, let's do, like, a little quick one. Yeah. I feel like, you know, it wasn't the government that killed mlk. I feel like it was just like some, you know, crazy guy. And the government's like, yeah, it was us. We did it. Or, you know, no one claimed it, and they just blamed the government. It was just like, some guy that just, like, kind of shot him. [00:47:02] Speaker B: No, I think the government paid someone to do it. Not like a true assassin, even though that's what an assassin is. [00:47:10] Speaker A: Well, no one was ever arrested for killing him. [00:47:13] Speaker B: I know. [00:47:14] Speaker A: That's up. Also. No one was, you know, in prison for killing him until. Or any of the other. Too many names. Yes, I'll say that. Too many. I'm like, stop killing innocent, you know, people like, you know, it's like this guy went out and, you know, bashed in, like, 20 white people's heads. I'm like, all right, you know, go ahead. You know, you can get that guy. [00:47:44] Speaker B: They also, what. Technically it was a murder because he was a cop. But didn't kill the. Or get the guy who killed Fred Hampton, either. [00:47:55] Speaker A: I mean, Fred Hampton was killed in a fucking raid. [00:48:01] Speaker B: He was killed by the cop. That's what I literally said is he was killed by a cop. And he wasn't like, air quote, raid. Because they talked about, like, how. [00:48:15] Speaker A: The. [00:48:15] Speaker B: Whole police report from independent researchers found that the police report was wrong because they. The shots fired and the shots fired back and all that fun stuff because. [00:48:28] Speaker A: There is a guy by the front door with a shotgun. Yes. [00:48:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:32] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, again, learned it, you know. You know, I do my research and. [00:48:39] Speaker B: Which is wild. [00:48:40] Speaker A: This is. [00:48:40] Speaker B: That's where you land on certain things by being so learned. [00:48:45] Speaker A: But, yeah, I mean, like, there's, like. If they do not teach it in school, I want to learn about it, you know? What happened during the Trail of Tears? What was that actually all about? Oh. Oh, my God. They just marched a bunch of Native Americans away from their fucking land, and a bunch of them fucking died. [00:49:03] Speaker B: Just resettled them. [00:49:05] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, we just need you guys over here, you know. Hey, are you gonna, like, get us a bus or anything or, like, some wagons, you know, because you are moving us. No, we don't have the budget for that. You can walk. You love walking. You're Indians, right? You're. You're a walking group of people. Look at you. Your feet. You're so good for walking. You're gonna walk a lot. You're gonna walk just a bit. It's. It's right up the road. It's. It's fine. Nothing bad will happen. Everything bad happened. And they're like, okay, we're sorry. Here's the slot machine that you can operate now and fucking steal money from other white people. And, like, all the natives, like, bet, okay, cool, we're good. But, you know, like, what. What do you feel about, like, the whole, you know, Charlie Kirk, you know, got killed by, you know, his lapel and Israel, you know, killed him. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Because, again, if clandestine wasn't about, like, so emphatic that it was, I would give it more credence, but I don't believe a lot of things that she's into. And I just think it's funny. [00:50:16] Speaker A: I mean, like, I. I watch the videos, you know, and, like, people, like, slowing it down. I'm like, do you really have nothing better to do with your time? I'm like, we got him. We. We got, you know, a guy, you know, that's good enough for me. A life for life. How many more do you want? You know, do you want Some, like Franz Ferdinand or, you know, just, you know, like, okay, yeah, it's good. It's like, you know, you don't need the whole black hand. You just need, like, a black finger. [00:50:50] Speaker B: I don't know how many people would understand that reference. [00:50:53] Speaker A: Black hand is the group that killed Franz Ferdinand, that fucking started the World War. The Great War. [00:51:01] Speaker B: I know, but I'm just saying. [00:51:05] Speaker A: So, yes, I mean, you know, that. That. That's. That. That you're the only person I. I need to, you know. You know, get the reference. And, you know, you're. You're well educated, so I just didn't. [00:51:17] Speaker B: Want them to assume a black hand. [00:51:20] Speaker A: Like. Like, what is he talking about? Black hand, black finger. Oh, my God, she's racist. So, yeah, I mean, you know, look. Look it up. Do some research. Do some independent research and, you know, find all this shit out yourself. It's good reading, you know, learn your history. You're bound to repeat it. You know, learn all the stuff that, you know, you don't learn in your own classroom. [00:51:45] Speaker B: All right, here's my. I want to end this with a random question. [00:51:49] Speaker A: I love it. [00:51:49] Speaker B: All right, so America right now and what people are saying that it's becoming a fascist, Nazi type place, right? [00:51:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:59] Speaker B: So do you think it is more leaning towards authoritarian, totalitarian, fascism, democracy, or something else? [00:52:14] Speaker A: I mean, in your opinion, right now it's learning. Leaning more towards, like, an authoritarian whole system where, you know, we need someone to watch everything we do. And, you know, the tool to fucking run that is. Is AI. So having AI, you know, watch your phones, watch what you say, you know, what did you say on Facebook? What did you say on Instagram? You know, okay, you know, now we can have humans fucking, you know, back that up and justify why we're coming to fucking harass you over your free speech. Or why do you have so many, you know, guns? Or why do you have this? Or why do you have that? You know, why did you buy this fertilizer? Why did you buy, you know, this fucking, you know, pipe threader? Are you making pipe bombs? You know, it's gonna be like. Have you ever seen that movie Minority Report? [00:53:06] Speaker B: Yeah, it's an awesome movie. [00:53:09] Speaker A: You know, imagine Minority Report without the three little girls. But instead of those three little girls, it's just AI that can, you know, accurately predict, you know, what you're gonna do before you do it, you know, so they can be like, okay, yeah, this guy, you know, just broke up with his girlfriend, went out and bought a gun and all that. You know, is available. [00:53:31] Speaker B: Don't you want that to stop pedophiles? [00:53:35] Speaker A: I mean, you know, like, how cool would it be if the AI just, like, you know, can see the chat room back? Oh, look, this guy's trying to talk sexually to a kid. Oh, look, he's 17. I'm so 17. I'm the most 17 year old ever. You know, I love. You know, it's like, boom. You just kick in his front door and shoot him twice in the chest. [00:53:54] Speaker B: So you can minority report it for the pedophiles. That's what you said, yeah. [00:53:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. 100%. Holy shit. You know, like, like if you could save just one kid. Oh, yeah. [00:54:08] Speaker B: I think there has to be a safeguard. Like, the point of me asking that question, was it to get you to agree with it? [00:54:15] Speaker A: I mean, I mean, here, here's really what it is. Here's really what it is. Like, you know, if you are a parent with a kid, watch what happens online because there's some vile fucking shit online, you know, like this podcast, for instance. You're already here, so you already know. But yeah, there's some vile fucking people online that, you know, will do some fucked up shit. So just young, kind of like, you know, every now and again, you know, I'm not saying, like, be a fucking helicopter parent and like, watch everything that your kid does, but, you know, like, have an open dialogue with your kid. You know, hey, you know, what, what's going on, you know, and you know, be more involved with your kid. Tron. Very involved with this kid. So I respect him, like, yay. You know, he knows, you know, everything that's going on. Am I cool? You know, we're all good now. If you're a bad dad, I'd be actually, get out of my life. I don't want to ever see you again. And now you're a good dad. Yay. So, yeah, I mean, you know, be, you know, know what's going on and you know that that's it. And like, we could stop a lot of it, you know, right there, nip in the bud, poop. And you know, have like, you know, AI, you know, poses little children and they're like, you know, talking to like an AI and like, oh, yay, mister. And then police kick in his front door and be like, you were talking with AI, idiot. Oh, no. And then, you know, guess what? Now it's fucking frightening to, you know, do it. It's like the same reason I don't do cocaine, because it might be fentanyl. [00:55:55] Speaker B: Based I just think it. Cocaine's what help a drug. [00:56:00] Speaker A: It is. I mean, I used to, but now I, I don't because it might have fucking fentanyl in it. I'm scared to fucking die of a fentanyl overdose after, you know, ripping a fucking rail of coke. And so I haven't done coke in many, many, many years. And now I'm like, oh, well, I don't care because now I'm an adult. Now I have, you know, other to do. So. Yeah, I mean, yeah, Minority Report, that shit all day long for pedophiles. Like just do it like a soft launch on pedophiles. [00:56:39] Speaker B: So then what happens with the hard launch? Is it for everyone else or is this the soft launch of pedophiles? And then we, we shut that down. Because that's not how, that's not what happens. When you give a government power. They don't just give the power back. [00:56:55] Speaker A: I mean, you know, we, we, you know, use it to stop terrorism. We use it to stop fucking, you know, drugs. We use it to stop extremism. You know, we use it to stop all the, the worst parts of America. [00:57:17] Speaker B: I don't think drugs should be criminalized. [00:57:21] Speaker A: I don't think we, you know, people need drugs at all. [00:57:27] Speaker B: What do you consider a drug? Because alcohol is mind altering. [00:57:33] Speaker A: I mean, that's why I had to have a beer before the podcast, because I'm like, all right, get in the racist mindset, all right? [00:57:39] Speaker B: And at one point weed is, I mean, technically weed is still considered drug, but. [00:57:45] Speaker A: Yeah, of course, but it's like, you know, if we got rid of like, you know, meth, heroin, crack, like all the hard drugs, you know, that really, you know, like ruin lives. Like no one has ever had like, you know, a great life six months down the road after doing math. [00:58:03] Speaker B: So psychedelics, psychedelics are fine. [00:58:06] Speaker A: That's a mushroom, you know, but too much mushrooms, like, limit the amount of mushrooms, you know, or have like a, you know, have a health, a health professional, like prescribe them. Like, I feel like that, that's not bad because there are medicinal benefits to, you know, mushrooms. [00:58:34] Speaker B: Right? So there's medicinal benefits to cocaine. [00:58:38] Speaker A: Not really. [00:58:41] Speaker B: Painkiller. [00:58:44] Speaker A: Yeah, like when you're punching a hole through your wall, like, oh, I hit the stud, it's fine, I'm on cocaine. Let's go out and fucking dance and grind on some chicks and be fucking weird and like, fucking stare open eyed, never blink. We don't have to blink. We don't have to eat. We're fucking Machines now. And you know exactly what I'm talking about too. Know exactly. [00:59:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:11] Speaker A: I won't dance. I'm gonna get fucking massively sweaty. Holy shit. Yeah, we're gonna do that crazy shit. We're gonna jump my fucking car off this ramp. Oh, my God. [00:59:21] Speaker B: Why might you get natural cocaine and coca leaves? [00:59:25] Speaker A: Not enough. Well, like, it, like, go on, watch a documentary about how cocaine is made and watch how many coca leaves are fucking, you know, takes to like make like a small amount of cocaine. I know, it's a lot. [00:59:41] Speaker B: I know. I wish we had coca leaves illegal here so we could grow it. [00:59:47] Speaker A: Now I have to see if it's legal to have coca leaves in America. Yeah. Is it legal to have coca leaves in America? No, it's illegal to possess coca leaves in the United States because they're treated as a controlled substance similar to cocaine. Yeah. Although limited, authorized imports are permitted for coca cola flavoring and scientific and medical purposes. Unprocessed or decocanized coca leaves are illegal. Even coca tea is prohibited. [01:00:32] Speaker B: What? [01:00:32] Speaker A: There's tea? That's great. [01:00:33] Speaker B: Yeah, that's why I said it should be legal. [01:00:42] Speaker A: You know, how do you. Oh, they even have like. How do you deal with this fucking bullshit? You know, US Customs law strictly regulates plant based substances, including traditional remedies. Like, does it come from like a seed? Like, can you like, like sneak in a sea and then like grow your coca leaves in their backyard? [01:01:07] Speaker B: Maybe. [01:01:08] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't care. I'm never going to do it. I don't. I don't give a shit that much. You know, like, that's fine. You know, if you really need, you know, cocaine, then, you know, like, get help. But yeah, I mean, any of the hard drugs make them all illegal. You know, if it's something that's like, you know, softer, you know, make it prescribable and you know, caffeine, alcohol, whatever, just let it be, you know. And then, you know, take weed back to when you had to like go to a doctor and be like, oh, I've like glaucoma, man. I, you know, go into like Venice beach to get a med card. Yeah. You know exactly what I'm talking about. [01:01:55] Speaker B: I do. [01:01:56] Speaker A: But we'll go ahead and end it there. I feel like that's like, that's like a good, you know, area to end it. We'll be back here in two weeks with some more of this. I don't even know it. [01:02:08] Speaker B: Gotta get them from South America. Coco seeds. [01:02:12] Speaker A: I'm obviously not, you Just put yourself on a list looking that up. [01:02:16] Speaker B: I don't care. I'm on the budget list. I'm left wing. I'm on every list there could be. And I'm black and Korean. [01:02:25] Speaker A: So he's black and Korean, I'm brown and you know, Native American. We cover everything. Like, there's not a single slur that we can't say. [01:02:36] Speaker B: Both of our. Both were significant others. My significant other at one point was white and white, which is Irish Polish. [01:02:44] Speaker A: Yeah, mine is white and white. She has pink hair. Very left wing. It's fine. She'll never admit it. Yeah, both sides of the rainbow. [01:02:56] Speaker B: Per her eyes. Undefined. [01:02:58] Speaker A: It's fine. She likes cats. [01:03:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:01] Speaker A: So we'll back in two weeks. We'll figure out what we're gonna talk about then. Unless something crazy happens. God damn it. [01:03:07] Speaker B: Hopefully the world calms down. [01:03:09] Speaker A: Yeah, hopefully nothing interesting happens in two weeks, you know, and hopefully I'm not sitting here fucking with an exasperated Cybeg. America. [01:03:22] Speaker B: If nothing bad, nothing crazy happens in the next two weeks. We could do like top action movie list type thing. [01:03:30] Speaker A: Something really light. We'll figure something out. Just like, you know, what is the best fast food in the world And Toronto back. Yeah, I like churches. Churches is pretty good. Church is definitely better than KFC and Popeyes. [01:03:46] Speaker B: Musubi. [01:03:48] Speaker A: What? [01:03:48] Speaker B: Musubi Masu. [01:03:50] Speaker A: Is that like a fast food chicken place? [01:03:54] Speaker B: Musubi is rice with spam and seaweed wrapped around it. That's what basubi is. [01:04:01] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I'm talking about like, you know. [01:04:03] Speaker B: No, I was going to say, like, there's like most Korean barbecue places on the subi, but I love how you're all like, is that a barbecue place? [01:04:12] Speaker A: Like, what is that? You know, speaking fucking Korean to me now. Like, oh, no, aren't even born in Korea. It's crazy. But you know, you can go ahead and follow me. Instagram. Alex truck. He's 21E or something. I don't matter. You can follow us or not. We're not active on social media. I have a life. But until then, see ya. Bye. Peace.