Charlie Pt 2

[00:00:01] Speaker A: All right, this is part two of Argue this for the Charlie Kirk episode. So just, Just know this is what this is. If we're just gonna do like a cold start, that that's just what happens. It's, It's. It's fine. Yeah, we're gonna get more of all this and you know how it goes. And then we'll be back next week with normal episode probably Conspiracy theories, I think, is what next week is gonna be. So, yeah, I mean, you know, catch us on that episode. We're gonna probably, you know, leave the Charlie Kirk stuff alone, maybe do a little bit of it, but, you know, see what happens. So thank you all for tuning back in. If you did. [00:00:50] Speaker B: So, then you'll be down to tax the rich more tax to then make. What's it called? Wreck out. What were they called? They weren't rec houses, but halfway homes. No, no, no. [00:01:04] Speaker A: Community YMCAs. [00:01:07] Speaker B: Yeah, but there was something else. They're just community stuff ran by the actual community. Community centers and stuff. There you go. [00:01:14] Speaker A: They still exist. [00:01:16] Speaker B: Not as big as they used to. A lot were defunded or have lost. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Funding because they weren't making any money. And they're just costing people money. Like, for people like me who don't have kids, I still have to fake and pay for the school. No problem paying for the school, but I still have to pay for it. [00:01:32] Speaker B: But wouldn't you rather pay for positive activities than not pay and have them be in gangs? [00:01:40] Speaker A: I mean, you know, realistically around here, like, you know, I don't see too many kids, know, running around, running gang colors, you know, like, like, it, it. It's relatively, you know, calm here, except for, like, my car getting shot. But I don't think that was, like, a kid. Something tells me that was not a kid. You know, something tells me those, like, you know, a white redneck, you know, shooting it off, like, oh, look at me, I'm shooting my gun. Hell, yeah. [00:02:13] Speaker B: That's fair. [00:02:14] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, it's, you know, here's what it is. You know, kids want to be a part of something, and if, you know, a gang can get a hold of them, because guess what? If you go to jail as a kid, you. There's no fucking consequence for you. And then, boom. Now. Now you're, you know. [00:02:32] Speaker B: But going back to the quote and looking at the Toyota 19 crime statistics and stuff, how is that quote taken out of context? Or is it, like I said, spewing more racial divide, Was talking about blacks attacking whites. [00:02:51] Speaker A: It's not. He's giving, you know, a true fact. And, you know, people are upset that, you know, Charlie was, you know, spewing some facts. [00:02:59] Speaker B: And we didn't even buy that it was a true fact, bro. We should. We looked at. We talked about four stories that were one for one, and then we talked. [00:03:09] Speaker A: But, you know, and then we talked back in the day when, you know, Emmett Till was killed, you know, were there black people attacking people? No, absolutely not. You know, Emmett Till got accused of giving a white lady dirty look and got killed for it. You know, like that. That was never a real fucking, you know, like, black people didn't do any crimes back in those days. And now, you know, it is increased, which, you know, makes Charlie Kirk's, you know, statement true. Now, I do want to, you know, quickly, before we end this episode, we're. [00:03:44] Speaker B: Comparing the time frame of Emmett Till that to now. That's what we're going to compare this quote to. Yeah, I mean, so then by. By your. By your quote then. [00:04:04] Speaker A: So whitewashing when Emmett Till was, you know, alive. Do you think there is, you know, groups of black people going around beating up people in Cincinnati? No, of course not. I don't think Cincinnati was a thing. You know, actually let me look up, because I do like facts in this fucking podcast. When was Emmett Till killed? 1955, which was not too long ago. You know, that. That's why I bring this up. So, yeah, Cincinnati was definitely a thing back then. But when was Cincinnati discovered? God damn it. Like, when was Cincinnati founded? That's what I was looking for. 1788, I think. [00:04:54] Speaker B: Same as every time frame, there are racial groups that gang that click up together to form air quote gangs. And those gangs do fight people they feel oppress them, or they do try to take advantage of people they feel they could take advantage of. So, yes, I do think in Emmett Till's time of 1955, that they. There were black gangs that jump white people as well. Same as their, you know, the kkk. [00:05:36] Speaker A: I mean, Emmett Till was killed when this house was getting built. [00:05:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:40] Speaker A: Like, just really put that into perspective, you know. So, like, this house was built and then, you know, until got killed. So this house was around, witnessed it. [00:05:52] Speaker B: Yeah, Probably a lot of racial shit happened in this house. [00:05:57] Speaker A: Not too much, you know, I did, however, hide a porno mag in the walls. [00:06:03] Speaker B: Okay. [00:06:04] Speaker A: So, like, if, you know, someone ever, you know, buys this house after I die, they're going to find an old fucking porno mag and they're like, what the fuck? You know, it's Going to be awful. But before we end this, you know, episode, I, I do want to, you know, cover people losing their jobs over posting, you know, on, you know, Charlie Kirk. You know, do you believe that, you know, people should lose their jobs? [00:06:34] Speaker B: I will answer it this way. If I believe people should lose their jobs over proceeding of Charlie Kirk, I would, I would have and should have felt the same way when people were posting the reenactments and stuff of George Floyd. Now, my statement with that same is with Charlie Kirk is that it is people are assholes and dicks and they should not be posting any of that stuff. I think it is very wrong and disgraceful to do shit like that. I do think, though, because America is free speech, it is, you are free to do that. I do not think now when you're like. Because then most people are like, well, free speech is freedom of consequence. And like, I understand that to an extent. But to. Again, stating the, to answering your question, because I didn't feel that people should have lost their life or their jobs and livelihoods for George Floyd. I do not feel people should lose their jobs and livelihood for Charlie Kirk. I do feel people who are. Did both are very shitty humans. That's as clear as I could be on that statement. [00:08:01] Speaker A: I mean, that's a pretty, you know, solid statement. I believe, like, if you want to, you know, say whatever you want inside your own house, you know, you have the freedom to do so. But if you go ahead and post it online, we do have the freedom of speech here in America. That is the government, the United States government cannot, you know, impede you from saying whatever you want to fucking say. They can't, you know, restrict your freedom, they can't restrict your press, and they cannot restrict what religion you practice here in America. And I love America for that. That's awesome. But your employer is not the government. And if your employer, you know, is going to lose customers due to you saying some shit about Charlie Kirk, you know, your employer, you know, the person that pays you, the person that gets paid by the public, you know, has every right to, you know, distance themselves from you, thus firing you from your job. [00:09:00] Speaker B: So then again, with that said, did you feel that the people who did the Elon Musk salute or the people. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Who, if you do anything fucked up online at all, if you, you know, post, you know, and only fans online, if you do a Nazi salute, if you do blackface, if you do anything and post it online, and that gets back to your boss, and your boss is worried about the liability of, you know, the negative, you know, actions that you do affecting their company, they have every right to fire you for it. [00:09:36] Speaker B: You know, Then you believe in cancel culture. [00:09:40] Speaker A: Well, not like everyone ganging up, but if, you know, well, you should not lose. [00:09:46] Speaker B: Okay, let me rephrase the question then. Do you. Multipart question. Do you believe that people should go back into your past of digital history and then post it to your employer, same as what happened with James Gunn and Disney with his past? [00:10:09] Speaker A: Delete that shit. If you have some old shit like. [00:10:11] Speaker B: We're not talking. Delete it. Just if, if you leave it out, you forgot about and st it, then that's on you. Open game. That's how you feel. It's open game, right? [00:10:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:20] Speaker B: I mean, like, what's the difference between that and what Cancel culture. Like, what's the difference between that? Those two ideas on. [00:10:29] Speaker A: Well, if you're trying to, you know, come after an entire person's like, you know, company or, you know, post some like, false shit, say, hey, you know, Donald Trump is a pedophile. [00:10:40] Speaker B: No, no, we're not talking. We're talking. [00:10:42] Speaker A: That's cancel culture. They're trying to cancel him from being the president. [00:10:44] Speaker B: No, we're not talking Donald Trump though. We're talking Joe or Bob or Steven. [00:10:50] Speaker A: Well, no one cares about, you know, Joe Schmo. [00:10:53] Speaker B: Yeah, no, Joe Smos and stuff have been because of them. Like, what's it called? So journalists have been fired for posting about Charlie Kurt. Right. So journalists should have been fired for posting about George Floyd and all that fun stuff too then. Correct. [00:11:16] Speaker A: If they're like, hahaha, you know, George Floyd is dead. Yeah, you know, hahaha, you know, Zimmerman, George Zimmerman was, you know, good on shooting Trayvon Martin. You know, like, if, you know, they're all, you know, giggling and being joyous about that, you know, it's like, dude, what the. You know, Trayvon Martin was a kid. You shouldn't be, you know, celebrating it. It's like anyone that's, you know, sitting out here like, good job, you know, zebra man. You, you did, you know, good thing. No, you're perpetuating and, you know, making, you know, you know, harder for everybody else. You know, like so. But don't lay over and, you know, play dead and just like, let everyone else do whatever they, they want but, you know, be, you know, be about it. [00:12:06] Speaker B: So I just don't understand how there's a difference then between being like, yeah, well, Joe, Bob and Sue doesn't matter. But if you have any influence and you didn't delete your history. That does matter. [00:12:25] Speaker A: So, like, say I wanted to run for a public office. Okay. Say I wanted to, you know, become a politician here, you know, somewhere in Colorado. Yeah, I would delete all my podcasts, Delete them off the Internet. I have the full power to do all that. I have the full power to go scorched earth. I delete, you know, my entire, you know, Instagram. I would delete, you know, my, you know, Facebook, delete every bit of social media that I have and make sure it's scrubbed off the Internet, you know, big. And then, you know, back, hey, I'm, you know, doing this. And it's like, oh, you know, so. [00:13:00] Speaker B: If your podcast wasn't brought. Was brought up and during your campaign, you lie about it. [00:13:07] Speaker A: I would be impressed. Honestly, I'm like, oh, where the fuck did you find that? [00:13:12] Speaker B: Would you cough up or would you lie about it? Then if you copped up, he's like, yeah, that's me. You deserve. Then do you feel that you would deserve to have that used against you, or would you feel that you shouldn't be using. [00:13:28] Speaker A: I mean, use it against me if you want. I mean, like, you know, you can, like, literally go through this podcast and like, I. I've said some crazy shit, but not too crazy a shit. Like, that's the craziest thing I've said. [00:13:43] Speaker B: You both said some stuff where it's easy to take it out of context and it be clipped. [00:13:49] Speaker A: See, here. Here's what would happen is, like, if someone tried to clip something, I'd release the full episode and make, hey, here's what really was said. Here's the full episode in full context. Yeah. And then I. I beg, Tron, I need you to make a video on Twitter, you know, saying, I'm not racist. I'm trying to run for. [00:14:07] Speaker B: But why would you. But then the next question be, why would you have deleted that or hide it like, in a. In a campaign trail? All I'm saying is. All I'm saying is. [00:14:20] Speaker A: That way people can't easily find it and easily clip it. [00:14:24] Speaker B: All I'm saying is you should. If. If you were upset with the people talking about Charlie Kirk and stuff, then you. And you think they should be fired whether they have influence. [00:14:38] Speaker A: No, I don't think they should be fired. [00:14:39] Speaker B: Whether they. I know. I'm just making a statement. If you are up. If you're one of the people who are upset with the people who are making fun of Charlie Kurt, and you feel they should be Fired, whether they're average Joe or have some influential power. You do not believe in free speech. If you. Because part of free speech is also letting people say shit that you disagree with. I disagree with the N word, obviously, but I am not going to be like, that word should be illegal or you shouldn't. You should lose your job for saying that. I would say you're a piece of. For saying that. You're a terrible human being, and I would not clip you. But if someone like your employer found out you should be. And they chose to be fired, that happened because of your choices. [00:15:32] Speaker A: But. But, for instance, like, if I was to be like, yo, Tron, you're such a. You know, and I. I, like, just used it, you know, I. I think you'd be like, you know, we're not friends anymore. [00:15:43] Speaker B: Correct. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm like, I. I don't. You know, I. I understand that. It's like, yeah, you don't like hearing that. So I'm like, okay. I just won't say that. It's. It's a easy thing to, you know, do. It's just like, oh, just don't say that. You know, just wait till all my white friends are around. Like, all right, ready? And it's like, 1, 2, 3. [00:16:08] Speaker B: All right. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Mutually assured destruction. Now, if anyone ever snitches on someone, we're all going down. [00:16:14] Speaker B: It's like that bitch commercial or. [00:16:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that's exactly it. I said bitch. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly how it goes. And it's like, okay, cool. You know, if any white person out there is, like, I've never said it. Never, brother. I've never said that. It's like, you're lying. You know, it's like you. You. You stub your toe, you know, in an empty house at, like, 2am you know, going out to, you know, get a, you know, glass of water, take a piss, you know, it's like, okay, like. Like, where did that come from? My Tourette's is going crazy tonight. It's like, you know, I don't know. [00:16:56] Speaker B: Very many people who said that it. With a hard heart. Just out of, like, that's like. [00:17:01] Speaker A: I mean, I don't. I don't want to look at. I guarantee you I'm going to find it. I know, because I've seen the video of a. A chick with Tourette's, and one of her ticks is saying the hard R. Like, oh, my God. Damn, that sucks. But, you know, sometimes, you know, the word is hilarious. Like the Louis CK bit where he's in an art museum. And, you know, like, they. You know, he goes to, like, a button, and, like, his friends, like, don't touch that button. He's like, the button says press. You know, he's like. And so he, like, she's like, you would have not survived the camp. So what the are you doing? Don't press the button. He's like, but the button says press. And she's like, all right, go ahead. Press the button. He presses the button, says, hard R loud. Everyone else in the museum, you know, looks. He's like, what? [00:18:00] Speaker B: Oh, that's hilarious. [00:18:01] Speaker A: Like, I'll send you the video. It's. I'm like, God damn that. That's funny. You know, and it's not being racist towards somebody else. I feel like using a word to, you know, put somebody else down, you know? You know, that's bad. But it's like, you know, if you're using it for, you know, humor. [00:18:22] Speaker B: So they. Do you believe that we should use the word clanker? I know you know what it means. [00:18:27] Speaker A: I don't know what the word clanker means. [00:18:28] Speaker B: You've never heard. Am I that chronically online that I know the only one? [00:18:33] Speaker A: Yeah, probably. [00:18:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:34] Speaker A: I don't know what the word clanker means. [00:18:36] Speaker B: Oh, dude, just Google it real quick. [00:18:39] Speaker A: Get on the list right now. Clanker. Clanker is a derogatory slur that has been used to rallying cries against artificial intelligence. Yeah, I mean, they call robots and. [00:18:52] Speaker B: Shit clankers and others, stuff like that. I think it's all funny. That's, like, what they've decided to do. [00:19:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Star Wars. I mean, like, you know, there's people that don't want to say the V word, or they. [00:19:11] Speaker B: There was another skit I saw that the. They started using giblet as a derogatory term, but, like, asocial semblance of a derogatory term. [00:19:23] Speaker A: And then I remember college humor used, you know, that, like, very close. And it's like, oh, God damn it. You know? [00:19:33] Speaker B: Well, in the. In the skit, the guy. The black guy is like, you jigger. Ooh. You used the hard R. That's like. You went there. [00:19:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, you know. [00:19:53] Speaker B: Also. Also, I know we're into the oddcast. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:57] Speaker B: But I have to bring up this, too. Now that we're further out with the shooter of Charlie Kirk. So far, I think it is obvious he's not on either side of, like, left or right. [00:20:11] Speaker A: He is left leaning. He's not with the left groups. You know, he is a fucking loser. [00:20:19] Speaker B: I think. [00:20:20] Speaker A: And he wanted to be a part of the groups, but none of them fucking let him in because they're not inclusive enough to let in a fucking white dude. [00:20:30] Speaker B: You can't use a double thing like that of like, yeah, the left is idiot, but they also wouldn't let this one white guy in where they should have let him in. So then we could have blamed the left. No, that we're not going through that crazy loop. So anyways, what I'm going to state. [00:20:45] Speaker A: Is again, how many right leaning Republicans do you know that are dating trans people? [00:20:51] Speaker B: Actually, if you really want honesty, I have a couple of SA worker friends. Two of them are trans, two of them are not. And a lot, the two that are, they have said most of their clientele is Republicans and. Or older white men. So. And what's it called? I know. Yes, we, you know, I know. Wait, wait, wait. [00:21:24] Speaker A: And I know that there ain't nothing manly more manly than having two dicks in the bedroom. Hell yeah, brother. You get to high five and play Call of Duty afterwards. [00:21:33] Speaker B: So I think if it wasn't against their side and all that fun stuff that they would be more open of like, yeah, Republican right leaning. Likes the dick though. But back to what I'm saying, he was neither either left or right. This was a meme culture type killing, which is wild. That's all I was. That's literally all I was going to say. I don't know why you had to add the qualifier of who is left leaning, because I don't even think he was left leaning. I think he was because I, I don't believe. Well, I do believe there's a lot of people that are left and right, but I believe there's a lot of people who have bully on both sides, which leaves them more in the center and they just don't follow like the hardcore policies of either A, free health care or B, guns for everyone. [00:22:29] Speaker A: Guns for everyone. But. And you know, there's work for your health care. [00:22:33] Speaker B: They're somewhere in the middle of that. I am for guns for everyone and free health care, which puts me out of the stream of both sides. But I also would add qualifier to the guns for everyone and not have a qualifier for free healthcare. So that's where once we have the laugh. [00:22:56] Speaker A: How about this, you just be like, all right, we're gonna have 10 more years of gun buying. Everything is, you know, on the table. Get the suppressors, get everything you want. And then after 10 years, you know, no more guns. [00:23:08] Speaker B: No, I just want more mental Health, like, first you need the backing of, like, help with mental health and stuff like that. And then also have the qualifier of, like, hey, every couple of years, you just have to make sure you're cool and take this test with a couple of strings. Cool. Awesome. [00:23:28] Speaker A: I mean, here's the thing, you know, in Colorado, we have red flag laws. So, you know, say, I am going through some crazy shit. You know, you are able to call the cops and you're the sheriff rather. And the sheriff shows up and back, okay, he's going through a mental health crisis. We are going to take away the guns that he has until he gets better. [00:23:54] Speaker B: Right. But there's been already a couple of school shootings where that's already happened. And, like, they've taken it away and then he got better, they got it back, and other stuff of, like, they came and checked and everything was okay. And then the shooting happened. So, like, we have to have just again, I think we have to have mental health screenings. [00:24:14] Speaker A: I don't think they work. I think you can lie. [00:24:18] Speaker B: I also agree with that. So I 100% agree with that. So there is. There is that, but they just go. [00:24:28] Speaker A: In and be like, you know, I'm. [00:24:29] Speaker B: All good, but I don't think the answer, though, is do nothing. And I just. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Again, the answer, you know, Syndrome from Incredibles said it best. If everyone's super, no one is right? So give guns to everyone. Be like, all right, here you go, kid. You know, here you go, teacher. Here you go, principal. Arm the schools. That way if someone wants to start popping off, it's like, bang, bang, bang, bang, Done. [00:24:56] Speaker B: Yeah, but like, again, if we had everyone everywhere, right? School, right? One person pulls out a gun, shoots two people, right? Somebody shoots the shooter. Right? Now, they're. But they're steady to the hallway, right around the blind corner. Somebody else sees a guy who stayed above all the bodies, and there's just a bunch of, no, that is not the answer. That's a terrible idea. [00:25:25] Speaker A: I guess, I guess TTT in a nutshell. I guess there's a game where, you know, like, there's like, you know, one or two traitors and you have to kill everybody else without anyone finding out it's you or killing you. So, like, yeah, it's like the thing. Like fucking John Carpenter's the thing. [00:25:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:47] Speaker A: You know, where, you know, one person that looks like, you know, like a normal person, you know, has to go around and secretly kill everybody else. [00:25:56] Speaker B: I want to revise my statement of doing something is better than doing nothing with trying A gun law is better than not trying any gun law. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Just give everyone guns. Everyone gets guns. Because guess what, here's the thing, you know, realistically, you know, I've been to gun events, okay? Yeah, I've been to gun events where everyone is carrying a gun. You know, everyone is having a good time. And an armed society is a polite society, because guess what? You know, it's like imagine, you know, I. I'm like, you know, sitting, you know, in a business meeting, and then, like, I just, like, you know, pull out a gun just like this and just set it on the table. I guarantee you, you're not gonna say anything untoward towards me. You know, it's like, no, but Alfred. [00:26:48] Speaker B: Behind you might say something. [00:26:51] Speaker A: You know, it's like, no one. You know, like, if you see a cop with his gun on his hand, on his gun, you're not gonna be like, fuck you, officer. [00:27:00] Speaker B: There's been tons of things, like videos and stuff of people going, fuck you, officer, and try to grab the gun and then. [00:27:07] Speaker A: Hilarious. And the officer takes three steps back and fucking, you know, gives them three more buttholes. It is, because he's so full of shit. [00:27:15] Speaker B: It's not that big of a deterrent when people are, yeah, we can get. [00:27:20] Speaker A: Rid of these people. It's fine. Get rid of the fucking bad ones, you know, Keep the good ones. It's fine. We're just, you know, doing the good things. We're doing the Lord's work. [00:27:30] Speaker B: You saw that, Brian. Kill me with. We should start euthanizing the fucking homeless. [00:27:37] Speaker A: Okay, so I have come up with a solution for this. [00:27:41] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Go ahead, tell me your solution. [00:27:45] Speaker A: And, you know, it's pretty fucking solid. You know, we. We gather up all the fucking homeless people and, you know, give them jobs, you know, like, give them, like. Like an ASVAB of sorts, you know, for just general work. And be like, hey, what are you good at? What you want, you know, what, you know. You know, get them sober, obviously. You know, get them, you know, support group and, you know, get them, like, a place to, you know, live and all that. And it's like, okay, cool. You know, here's a job for you to go to. You know, here's, you know, clean clothes and, you know, your dignity back. You know, you're not in jail. You know, you're. You're free to do whatever you want. If you want to, you know, leave, you know, you can come back one more time. And then after that, you know, we're not gonna help you. And you get no food stamps. It is illegal to fucking, you know, panhandle. It is illegal to sleep on the streets and you have to like just go out into the woods and forage for yourself, you know, on blm land and that's all you get. And if you cannot fucking survive out in the fucking woods, you just die. But if you're not gonna willing to accept the help, accept the sobriety. [00:28:57] Speaker B: You. [00:28:57] Speaker A: Know, and get your life back on track, then yeah, no, you don't get to, you know, live in society. You have to go out into the. [00:29:05] Speaker B: Woods and you think this is the society that the whole world should strive for. [00:29:10] Speaker A: I mean it worked for Australia, didn't it? [00:29:17] Speaker B: I, I love it. [00:29:19] Speaker A: Just the victory sound. [00:29:22] Speaker B: I think we should as a society that is, should be based on capitalism, should strive like judge our society based on what the lowest has and I don't think murdering the lowest of us. [00:29:49] Speaker A: I'm not murdering them. [00:29:51] Speaker B: You're giving them a choice. They got two shots and that's it that you are murdering them. [00:29:56] Speaker A: I, I'm giving them two shots, you know, where we take care of them, where we come out of the woodworks and you know, give them a chance. [00:30:05] Speaker B: We're going to provide free health care, free mental health. [00:30:08] Speaker A: Yes, there will be a psychologist there and you know, someone to get them on the, you know, correct meds, you know, get them, you know, you know, a methadone clinic, all that, you know, get them, you know, healthy and get them back to society and get them, you know, working. It's like, hey, here's a. It's not going to be the best place in the world, but it's not going to be the streets and it's like, oh yeah, here's a, you know, nice safe, warm place to sleep. [00:30:35] Speaker B: You know, safe is air quotes because there's been a lot of homeless shelters where women's got assaulted in homeless shelters. [00:30:42] Speaker A: Well, like I would like have it, you know, where each person has like, you know, their own like kind of a little 10 by 10 room and you know, so if you're willing to. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Do this, why not just have free housing and free health care? [00:30:58] Speaker A: Because I don't want to give them the free ass house where they're gonna come destroy it. Like if they're gonna live in the facility, they're gonna have someone there at all times. You know, kind of just like watching. Yes, it's gonna be a, you know, like dystopian type future type shit. [00:31:11] Speaker B: So yes, it is going to be a prison. I think open air, prisoners yeah, pretty. [00:31:16] Speaker A: Much, but, you know, but not exactly. Like they're allowed to do whatever the fuck they want to do, but if they want to continue doing drugs, you know, they're gonna get the fuck out and, you know, then they're gonna consider alcohol a drug? No, I mean, it is, but it wouldn't be. [00:31:36] Speaker B: Consider mushrooms a drug? [00:31:38] Speaker A: Yes. [00:31:40] Speaker B: Even though they grow naturally? [00:31:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:43] Speaker B: You consider weed a drug? [00:31:44] Speaker A: Yes. [00:31:45] Speaker B: Even it grows naturally. But alcohol isn't. Why? [00:31:51] Speaker A: I mean, if you're. If you're going out, just like, drink a beer. But if you're getting fucking shit face, you know, pissing your pants all the time, no, you're out. But if you're just like, I'm gonna have, you know, beer every once in a while, get yourself like a little treat every now and again. But, you know, all you have to do is, you know, come in here, you know, you get to live there for free, you know, and you can save up money and, you know, go move yourself into an apartment and then you can do whatever the fuck you want to do. If you want to fucking, you know, down here's down a fifth of whatever the fuck, you know. Sure. You know, and if you, you know, get out and get your own apartment and fall back down, then guess what? We'll allow you to come back in again. And this is your last chance. Third strike, you're out. [00:32:39] Speaker B: I don't like that. [00:32:40] Speaker A: I know it's not nice to everybody, but, you know, it is a realistic thing that gets everybody, you know. [00:32:48] Speaker B: Well, you're not being realistic with like, stuff that could be out of people's, like, personal circumstances. Such as, like, health issues. What health issues? [00:33:00] Speaker A: We take care of that. You come in, we have a nurse that fucking, you know, looks after you. [00:33:07] Speaker B: Can'T take care of someone who has a heart attack or a stroke or aneurysm or stuff like that. [00:33:14] Speaker A: Aneurysm? People are dead. [00:33:15] Speaker B: Okay, that's fair, but you know what I mean? [00:33:18] Speaker A: But yeah, usually the people, you know, that are out in the street are not having heart attacks or strokes or shit like that, you know, like there. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Are tons of people who have health issues that then cause them to not be able to pay their rent, that then cause them to be on the street. [00:33:34] Speaker A: Them a job, we give them a job, you know, within the parameters of which they can work. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Right. But what I'm saying though is so after they leave, right, they're off on their own back to the world that we haven't changed of, I assume, not giving free health care or I assume not inserting UBI or I assume not fixing free housing. Correct. Or affordable housing. Correct? [00:33:57] Speaker A: Well, I mean, yeah, you get the. [00:33:58] Speaker B: Okay, so. No, no, stop. Stop with leaving that place. That's what we go back to is like what we're currently in. So then when we're. They're back into currently working now, right, Say they've been out for like six months, they're doing great, everything's going cool, Boom, they have an accident, broke a leg or something like that. And their job requires them to physically be there because real work requires real people and not sitting at home on a chair. Sorry, that's just me adding that in. [00:34:25] Speaker A: But I mean, if you break your leg, you can go work, you know, at your job, sitting down, or go, you know, ask the government for a different fucking job where you can sit down because you were in a car accident. Yes, I have no problem fucking. And that's why you have car insurance. Car insurance takes care of your medical too. [00:34:42] Speaker B: Not, not if you don't have full coverage. And not everyone could afford full coverage. [00:34:47] Speaker A: Because insurance scan minimum insurance covers your medical. [00:34:51] Speaker B: I don't think it does. If it's your fault. [00:34:54] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, if it's your fault. If you're fucking, you know, texting and driving and, you know, being a distracted driver and being a shitty driver. [00:35:01] Speaker B: We should. Why are we adding all these qualifiers to everything? Why can't we just have, hey, you're born, you live in our society, you've contributed or are contributing. I'm even adding that qualifier just because I think it's just full stop. B, you're born, you're a citizen in our society. This is what happens. [00:35:21] Speaker A: But so I like this. So if you're born and you're a citizen, should we, you know, be like, you know, you're born and you weren't a citizen and you moved here. Get the fuck out. [00:35:30] Speaker B: No, I personally feel that you're here in this country, you should be taken care of. I mean, you asked me. [00:35:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, if you move in, you know, legally, I am all for, you know, legal immigration. That's great. Welcome to America. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Everything should be open borders, all nations. [00:35:51] Speaker A: No, no, absolutely not. [00:35:53] Speaker B: All nations should be open border. [00:35:56] Speaker A: You know, it's like when, when you look at like the history of like the Jewish people and it's like, oh God, you know, there's a reason they got kicked out of other countries and that's cuz they charged interest on loans. They were capitalists and the king did not like that. And so they kicked him out of a bunch of countries. And I'm like, it's kind of up, but all right, sort of get it. But, you know, don't be mean to Jews. You know, only be mean to, like, the bad Jews. [00:36:27] Speaker B: I don't know how being mean to Jews has anything to do with open borders. Please elaborate more on that. [00:36:34] Speaker A: I mean, you know, moving fucking people from the Middle east over here, moving people that do not understand our culture because, you know, believe it or not, yes, there are different cultures. [00:36:46] Speaker B: What is. What is our culture? That is a melting pot of a bunch of different cultures. Go, what is American culture? [00:36:53] Speaker A: American culture is, you know, looking at hot chicks with big tits. Football, you know, guns, you know, basketball, sports, you know, work, work 40 hours a week, work 60 hours a week. Capitalism, greed, you know, lust, you know, the seven deadly sins. That's American culture. It's a amazing. And it's the freedom to do whatever the we want to do. [00:37:16] Speaker B: I think some of that is American culture, and some of it isn't depending on what your social class is culture. [00:37:25] Speaker A: But, you know, say you go to, you know, like, Istanbul and you go into a mosque, you know, and you're like, I'm not gonna put those foot, you know, booties on my shoes. Yeah, you can kick the out. You know, there's certain areas that have religious police, you know, and if you do the wrong thing in the wrong area, you're gonna get beat. [00:37:46] Speaker B: That kind of what's happening now with. If you aren't, you know, more pro. Charlie, Kurt, you're getting your. Anyways, anyways. [00:38:03] Speaker A: I mean, that, like, it's very similar, dude. [00:38:05] Speaker B: Very similar. What's going on here? I mean, same as, you know, when you. Night after night 11 and bringing up the mosques and stuff. Same differences. That kind of happened here, too. So that's part of American culture as well. [00:38:21] Speaker A: I mean, you know, in, you know, like, have you the beginning, even the. [00:38:29] Speaker B: Beginning of American culture? We're kind of like, yo, red, red skin. If you don't follow us, you got to get off. You still follow us, but you still got to get off our land. Our. Our culture is pretty simulator. Get up. So I don't understand how that's not American culture, too. [00:38:51] Speaker A: I mean, here. Here's the thing. If you don't like American culture, you have the freedom to immigrate to any other country you want, sell all your stuff, move to another country. If you hate America so much, move to another country. Move to a country that you love, and you're like, oh, wow. And then that way you can be happy and beck, I used to be American, that place. And you can, you know, justifiably say, fuck that place. [00:39:17] Speaker B: So then wouldn't you then want to advocate for open borders so that person could go to a bunch of different countries and try all the countries they think is good, and then they'd be like, oh, I fucked up. I'm going to come back home. [00:39:30] Speaker A: No, I don't want them to come back. You already said, fuck America. You get to now fucking live with the consequences of your actions. Congratulations, dickhead, you played yourself. [00:39:40] Speaker B: So you're going to be that terrible parent that kicks out their kid, is like, sorry, you're dead to me. [00:39:44] Speaker A: Yes, 100%. Get the fuck out. You know, you said, fuck this place. This place is awful. And then you realize that every other place is a million times worse. Like, you guys all hate, you know, gay people here. And then you move to Russia and like, oh, fuck, Russia really hates gay people. Let's move to the uae. They tried to fucking kill me over there. Holy shit. America might actually be pretty great. [00:40:09] Speaker B: So you think guy who moved his family to Russia and then got constricted into the army. [00:40:17] Speaker A: Hilarious. Even though he's everything that you deserve. Everything that you deserve, you dumb piece of shit. See, yo, I want to go to Russia because America sucks. And then now you're in the fucking army. Congratulations, you played yourself. See, this is leprous ate my face. He's all day. [00:40:36] Speaker B: He's not even on my side of any politics that I'm still like, nah, man, we should let him come back home. [00:40:43] Speaker A: This is leopards ate my face all God damn day long, you know? You know, I didn't think leopards would eat my face. Woman sobs as she voted for the Leopards eating faces party. [00:41:00] Speaker B: Shouldn't you then, with that same energy, be against this cancelling of, like, Jimmy Kimmel and what's it called, the other guy and everything? [00:41:14] Speaker A: Jimmy Kimmel's not even that funny. I don't watch his show. No one watches his show. The reason Jimmy Kimmel got fired is because he was getting paid $88,000 an episode and there was only like a hundred thousand fucking people watching his episode per show. You know, I see YouTube channels that get more traffic than that and get paid way less. He's getting paid like 63 cents a viewer. [00:41:39] Speaker B: I don't think your numbers are factual. [00:41:42] Speaker A: Let's see. Oh, I. I love facts on this podcast. We'll pull it up. How much was Jimmy Kimmel getting paid Per episode. Now let's see. Jimmy Kimmel earned 88,325 episodes. You know how many people watch Jimmy Kimmel's show? And 220,000 viewers. [00:42:14] Speaker B: Why don't you say the first part? [00:42:17] Speaker A: Jimmy Kimmel live had a, you know, 1.77 million total viewers. [00:42:24] Speaker B: Average viewer, total. Average. That's the total average. [00:42:28] Speaker A: So Jimmy Kimmel show averaged 220,000 viewers. And the key 18 to 49 demographic for Q2. [00:42:36] Speaker B: That's where the 20,000 comes from, not from all his viewers. [00:42:42] Speaker A: So let's see. [00:42:44] Speaker B: Oh, no, no. We wanted to go back because again. [00:42:48] Speaker A: I'm pulling up a news story. Abc, Jimmy Kimmel Live Hemorrhage viewers over the past decade lost 72. Knock it off. Fucking ad. We don't give a shit. Hemorrhage lost 72% of, you know, key demographics, which is that younger age, but. [00:43:07] Speaker B: That isn't the older age. [00:43:11] Speaker A: Yeah, so Jimmy's Kimmel's program averaged 2.2 million in 2016 and 2017, fell to 2.1 in 2018, dropped to, you know, 1.9 in 2019, shrunk to 1.8 in 2020. And by 2021, Jimmy Kimmel, you know, only had 1.5 million. So. Lost a million fucking viewers. [00:43:34] Speaker B: Wait, wait, wait. Your original thesis wasn't he lost all these viewers. Your original thesis was he only has about a hundred thousand people watching, but it's 1.6 million. [00:43:51] Speaker A: So how many people watched Jimmy Kimmel Live on his last episode? There was no last episode of Jimmy Kimmel live. He had 1 million total viewers for the month. [00:44:11] Speaker B: An average of 1.1 million per month for the month. For, you know, average of it is you. [00:44:19] Speaker A: One point you need. [00:44:21] Speaker B: You can't say Charlie Kirk is not taking out of context or in August 2025, this. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Okay, here, I'll. I'll even pull up the whole news story because you know, you love that. You know, because again, we're. ABC suspended Jimmy Kimmel after his car remarks. Trump cheered, citing weak ratings. In September 2025, his show fell 11% to 1.104 million viewers. Ranked third, which is not great. [00:44:51] Speaker B: No, no. Ranked third. First, second, second. Before we go any further, the original thesis was he only got 100,000, but it is actually a million more views than what you stated. [00:45:07] Speaker A: Third. Your next revised one we 1.04 million for the month. This is a nightly show every night. Jimmy Kimmel Live, like every night. So, yeah, that put. That puts it in more perspective because there's Not a million people watching every fucking night. And even so, there's fucking YouTube channels that get more fucking traction than that on videos. And he's getting paid $80,000 a fucking episode. Nah. So, yes, you know, he, you know, was a failure. And, you know, also he was being played in airports too, all around the country and just playing bars, you know, all around the country, just whatever. Here you go, grandma. Here, watch this show. You know, watch your kids. [00:46:10] Speaker B: Besides these extra qualifiers you're adding and whatnot, besides all this, weren't you in agreement with the whole. [00:46:21] Speaker A: Let me see. Wait, stop, stop, Mr. [00:46:24] Speaker B: Beast, stop. Let me make my. Propose my question. Ready for me to propose my question now? [00:46:32] Speaker A: One second. Let me, let me pull up. Yeah, you know, Ms. Mr. Beast, you know, oh, he has 438 million subscribers. What was his last fucking view? Oh, 100 million fucking views for his last video. [00:46:47] Speaker B: Okay. [00:46:50] Speaker A: You know, and then he did survive 30 days chained to your ex. Went quarter million one point, you know. You know, over 100 million views. [00:47:01] Speaker B: Okay. [00:47:04] Speaker A: So. [00:47:06] Speaker B: We'Re putting this aside for the fact that I personally. And everything we looked up until that one article, everything had the word average. That one article is the only one that did. Didn't have the word average viewers. So again, who cares? We're going back to the original. This proposed question I have for you. Okay, so Biden, everyone the right was up in arms for him, pressuring Facebook in that to suppress what's it called, news stuff about him and Hunter. Correct. That happened under Biden's thing, Correct? [00:47:55] Speaker A: Yes. Okay, don't. [00:47:56] Speaker B: Stop, stop. There's no extra qualifiers. Just it was a simple yes or no. Now, if we kept that same energy, shouldn't we be upset with Trump trying to get abc, NBC and all of them firing their news hosts? [00:48:19] Speaker A: If. No, no, no, no, no. [00:48:22] Speaker B: Why is it that did. [00:48:24] Speaker A: Is it Joe Biden fire Fucking no. [00:48:27] Speaker B: He pressured. Right? That's. That's. That's a story. Well, the right. Stop. That was a pressure was Biden's administration was pressuring the. What's it called, the big tech companies suppress stories. [00:48:42] Speaker A: Correct, Joe. But yes, Joe Biden did not fucking. [00:48:46] Speaker B: No, no. His administration. Right? [00:48:49] Speaker A: Yes. [00:48:50] Speaker B: Okay, so then would it. That same energy be applied to Trump administration and Trump applying pressure? [00:49:00] Speaker A: If his son was fucking no hookers and not, you know, doing fire, wouldn't. [00:49:07] Speaker B: Would it be. Be the same energy with Trump pressuring NBC and ABC and all the other ones to suppress the stories by firing the host, saying that they are saying mean things about him? [00:49:23] Speaker A: Go, oh, he Sued them. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Correct. And again, wouldn't that be, like. Wouldn't you be upset if Biden sued companies for that? [00:49:37] Speaker A: No. If they're saying lies, it's like, yeah, go ahead and sue people. But, you know what he was doing? [00:49:44] Speaker B: You are doing so much mental gymnastics. It is okay. We are not going to see. [00:49:49] Speaker A: It's okay. Like, we're already an hour pass, so this is gonna have to be, you know, broken up into, like, two separate episodes, bonus episode. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Boom. [00:49:58] Speaker A: You know, I'm probably just gonna, you know, be like, one week here, one week here, and then that way it just, you know, kind of, you know, still lines all up. That way people don't have to, like, wait, you know, a week to hear, you know, the second half of this. But, yeah, I mean, we'll go ahead and, you know, end it there. But, yeah, I mean, I. I'm never gonna, you know, convince you on political stuff. And I understand that. It's fine. It's still my friend. [00:50:22] Speaker B: I understand. You're my best friend. But I am talking about, like, I'm not looking to change your mind or prove that I'm right. I'm looking to make at least come from the same base of, like, hey, I'm going to hold Biden to this. I will hold Trump to this. I will hold Obama to this. I will hold Dick Cheney to this. I, like, everyone should be held the same of the same qualifiers of what makes a person bad or good. [00:50:52] Speaker A: I mean, you have everyone on the left, you know, calling Donald Trump a Nazi and a fascist, and the reason that they're doing that is so they can dehumanize him. [00:51:02] Speaker B: I don't. I don't think everyone on the left has been calling him that. [00:51:06] Speaker A: There's been a lot of, like, have you ever called. [00:51:09] Speaker B: I think. [00:51:09] Speaker A: Have you heard one of your friends call Donald Trump a Nazi? [00:51:13] Speaker B: If you'll let me finish. [00:51:14] Speaker A: Mm. [00:51:16] Speaker B: I think people with influence and stuff. I don't think all. Everyone that they are all saying that Donald Trump is a Nazi. I. Same as how you were saying about Joe Smo and whatever they say doesn't matter with what's it called, history and cancel culture and all that. The people on the left who are Joe Schmo and saying. Calling Trump a Nazi and say are celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. Same as people on the right saying Michelle Obama is a man and that. What. I just wanted to make the same stuff and all that stuff. Those are the fringe groups, and we shouldn't qual. Use them as everyone on the side. [00:52:08] Speaker A: But, but when they're on your side, it makes you look bad. It's like when you see, when you see a bad cop, it makes all the other cops look bad. When you have an extremist leftist, it makes all the other leftists look bad. It's like correct. Like you, you know, as leftist should come out of the woodworks and be like, we do not accept that person. Fuck that person. Get them the fuck out. We do not, you know, believe in what they're saying, you know, but no people, you know, like I see it. [00:52:34] Speaker B: All over the Internet again. [00:52:36] Speaker A: All over the Internet and all over Facebook. [00:52:39] Speaker B: Same energy. Why then did it people from the right come out of the woodworks to be like, that person's a liar. That person should be sued or fired. Because Michelle Obama obviously is not a man. [00:52:53] Speaker A: Or obviously. I mean like, are you gonna be a man? [00:52:59] Speaker B: Are we serious? Are we serious? [00:53:01] Speaker A: Ain't nothing wrong with it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Michelle Obama's Adam's apple. [00:53:12] Speaker B: I'm done entertaining this. [00:53:15] Speaker A: A persistent consideration. Falsely complains that a Michelle Obama has an Adam Papple suggests that he's secretly a man. This is a faceless rumor. Like all humans, women have a thyroid cartilage that can be visible in the neck. The visibility of this cartilage varies among individuals. [00:53:39] Speaker B: We are not going any further further with this. [00:53:42] Speaker A: I mean look, look at this. There's this video showing Adam's apple. [00:53:45] Speaker B: We'll have a conspiracy theory episode. [00:53:50] Speaker A: Oh, this is funny. But yeah, I mean, yeah, it, it, this could just go on forever. We, we could do like 10 hours of this. [00:53:59] Speaker B: Oh, we are going to have a conspiracy up three episode now. Cuz. Cuz it really did with what's it called? Macron suing. What's her name? Candace Owens. But you know about that, right? [00:54:16] Speaker A: No idea. [00:54:17] Speaker B: But really, because Candace Owens been calling Macron's wife or someone. What's it called? Maybe it's not Macro, maybe it's one of the other Frenchies. But calling them. They were a man and then it's probably a man. And so the. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Because yeah, like Photoshop the pictures and just like okay, yeah. [00:54:39] Speaker B: And so he's suing. What's it called? [00:54:43] Speaker A: Macron's man wife. No, Macron's man wife. Let's go to images. [00:54:54] Speaker B: Oh, I was right. Sweet Macron. [00:54:57] Speaker A: Jesus. She has like that Michael Jackson looking face with like a nose. Not, not, not to be like, you know, kind of looks like Leatherface. [00:55:19] Speaker B: I refuse to entertain this as well. [00:55:21] Speaker A: Oh my gosh. She like, she. She looks like she might be wearing a mask. She might be wearing masks. You never know. But. But I'll go ahead and end it on this, you know, thought right here. You know, people, you know, call, you know, the right Nazis. The same reason that, you know, racists called, like, you know, black people animals. And, you know, they. They, you know, called, like, you know, the Native American savages and like that. To dehumanize, you know, people and to make it okay to kill people. So they're, you know, calling the Republicans Nazis. So it's okay to kill a Nazi. It's okay to punch a Nazi in the face because they're just a Nazi, not a human being with thoughts and, you know, feelings. They're just a Nazi. Kill them. Why not? So, yeah, I mean, yeah, take that however you will. [00:56:22] Speaker B: I have to actually say something now because you say that, right? What is. Because we started with Charlie Kirk, right? Quote, what did Charlie. Charlie Kirk called himself? He called him a nationalist, and he's a socialist. What did Art Nazis stand for? [00:56:43] Speaker A: National and Socialist Workers Union. [00:56:46] Speaker B: So he's openly admitted, like, half of that. Is that correct? [00:56:52] Speaker A: I mean, a socialist is someone that just is like, you know, if, you know, you have two cows, the government's gonna take your cow, one of your cows, and give it to your neighbor that has no cows. So now everyone's equal. [00:57:04] Speaker B: If you heard someone call themselves a nationalist socialist, you wouldn't naturally equate it to Nazism or in the Nazi Party. Yes or no? [00:57:17] Speaker A: I mean. No, no, no. [00:57:19] Speaker B: Again, no. Okay, we're good. [00:57:23] Speaker A: But I think the ideas that come out of their head, I think that qualify. [00:57:27] Speaker B: I think with him being a natural like that, that would give credence to the whole Nazi conspiracy. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Honestly, like, this should just, like, turn into, like, a whole YouTube show where we actually, you know, come in with our clips, you know, and just, like, big boom. Here's this clip. Watch this. And then. [00:57:52] Speaker B: But we don't have a Jamie. [00:57:57] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll just have to, like, get, like, you know, like, two computers and back. You know, you get to, like, bring up all your clips, and then I bring up all these clips and make me just, like, send them back and forth and just, like, have, like, topics, and then, you know, that way we can just pick there. And then we'd have to edit it, and then, like, the whole thing. Maybe. Maybe one day we'll get there. If this becomes, you know, popular again, then we'll get there, but we'll go ahead and end it there. Thank you. So much for listening. I'm sure this is going to turn into a two parter. And if you're listening to this, you're. You already know. You're like, fuck. Okay, but I'll make a little Denman at the beginning. So thank you all so much. We'll be back probably next week with the second half of this and then in two weeks. You know how it goes. All right, bye. [00:58:46] Speaker B: Peace.