Argue This! #167 Retarded Natural Selection

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Alrighty. All righty, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Argue this with Alex the truck and my wife, the fucking guest star or some shit that she likes being called. [00:00:12] Speaker B: Yes, thank you for my title. [00:00:15] Speaker A: She's ridiculous. [00:00:17] Speaker B: I am proud of it. [00:00:20] Speaker A: But my wife, you know, the reason we don't have Tron today is because he's at work and I'm easy piece of shit. Also, my wife brought up an interesting topic that I wanted to argue against because for the first time ever, she was the bad guy in this and she wants to natural selection all people with mental deficiencies disabilities. Disabilities. Disabilities too. All blind. [00:00:51] Speaker B: I'm talking about mental disability, not blindness. [00:00:54] Speaker A: That's a mental disability. What about cerebral palsy? That's a mental disability. [00:01:00] Speaker B: No, that's like a physical convection. I'm talking about people who are retarded or autistic or have trouble. I'm talking about brain disability in regards to being able to be a productive member of society. [00:01:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, cerebral palsy is exactly that. It's just your arms and legs all work fine. Your brain just doesn't communicate with them. [00:01:29] Speaker B: I see people with cerebral palm. Okay, you know what? Okay, I am bowing to your argument. I will include them in my side of this argument. [00:01:39] Speaker A: Okay, so you want all of them to be killed? [00:01:45] Speaker B: Okay. So I'm a firm believer of evolution and natural selection at the bare bones. Survival of the fittest. I say that because I am so hyper aware of what holds me back as an autistic person. Like when I'm at work, I can see all of my coworkers. They're standing in a group and they're talking and words flow so freely from one into another and I'm so very jealous of that because if I try to initiate conversation, it's talking with an autistic person. Like, I don't know when is my turn to speak. I have repetitive speech patterns. Like, I know I don't communicate to my other coworkers the way they communicate that and it's so in front of my face every single day and I hate that. If we were like back before humans had just started developing language that kind of shit, people like me would have immediately been taken out of the gene pool. Like, we would not have survived. And that's a good thing as humans as we continue to allow every single being the opportunity to live. And like premature births, people, autistic people who are born nonverbal, people with down syndrome, like, all these people wouldn't naturally exist in the wild and yet here they are. And in my opinion, they serve no purpose beyond wasting money and people's time. Like, do you want to be a caretaker of me when I get old? [00:03:21] Speaker A: No, I'm going to be dead. [00:03:22] Speaker B: Exactly. Like, I don't want to have to have a caretaker in the first place. I resent the fact that I am neurodivergent more than the fact that I'm happy about it. I am happy about it some days. Like, I appreciate how I view the world completely different from the people around me. I appreciate how much better I am able to understand animals and the people around me in my field. But at the end of the day, I hate my defects so much more. [00:03:52] Speaker A: Well, I have to say this deer exist. Every single fucking deer in the world has hydrocephalus. All of them. 100% of the deer retarded as fuck. Water brain babies, dumb as fuck. They run in front of cars all the time and God just made them too fucking stubborn and too strong. It's like making a retarded brick is what a deer is. [00:04:20] Speaker B: So deers are ruminants. Ruminants are prey animals. I do not respect prey animals. If we as humans had more predators, people like me would be taken out as prey, okay? Predators. People who are neurotypical would be fine, but we have so few natural predators now that people like me are no longer being taken out of the gene pool and people like me are allowed to procreate. And that's fucked up in my opinion. [00:04:49] Speaker A: Well, I mean, you want to go camping and you're a white lady likes camping and you're a white lady that probably wants to go check out sounds that's your prey. Fucking strange sounds in the woods. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Okay? If I go out and I'm taken down by a bear, that is my own damn fault. And again, I will not be adding my genes to the gene pool anymore. So that is a good thing. I am not a good hunter and gatherer. Like, I serve no purpose as a non functioning member of society. [00:05:20] Speaker A: I just imagine like, a gene pool is like just like a swimming pool that got emptied out of water and people just keep on throwing in like levi's and dungarees and all kinds of jeans into the gene pool. [00:05:32] Speaker B: Your analogy is 100% correct. Fuck Jennings. [00:05:37] Speaker A: Jeggings. [00:05:38] Speaker B: Jeggings. Yeah, fuck that. I'm a jegging and I hate that. [00:05:42] Speaker A: It's like, oh yeah, these fucking pants suck ass. Get these walmart pants out of here. [00:05:48] Speaker B: Exactly. I have no business existing. [00:05:51] Speaker A: But here's the thing, we need walmart pants because they're cheap and you can laugh at people that are too poor to afford target jeans and Kohl's jeans. [00:06:02] Speaker B: What is difference for you between poor people and retarded people? [00:06:08] Speaker A: You can be retarded and poor, but if you're poor, you are retarded, so what's the difference? So one, your brain is empty and the other your bank is empty. [00:06:30] Speaker B: Okay? I mean, poor people are not at fault for being poor if they are trying their best and they're still being poor. But if you're like floundering around and asking for handouts at the stop sign, I don't feel bad for you. [00:06:46] Speaker A: Here's the thing. I see a fucking poor person. Yeah, go ahead and kill them. They have all the faculties to fucking go out and make money as someone that was homeless on my 18th fucking birthday. I now live in a fucking house. [00:07:02] Speaker B: Okay, so how you feel if you see a homeless person? How do you feel if you see a retarded person who's, like, working part time, doing their best to hold down a job, and going back to their home where they have at least either a part time or full time caretaker? How do you feel about seeing that individual? What is your initial reaction? [00:07:19] Speaker A: I had a friend like that. [00:07:21] Speaker B: And what is your initial reaction? [00:07:22] Speaker A: He was fucking cool as hell. [00:07:24] Speaker B: Why was he cool? [00:07:25] Speaker A: Because he was kind. He was a nice fucking person that didn't have an ego about him, didn't think he was better than anybody else. And it's a breath of fresh air to see a human being like, oh, yeah, everyone's cool. Like, my friend Tommy awesome, dude. He played video games. He had a caretaker. The caretaker was a fucking piece of shit know? And didn't have any sort of tact whatsoever. Like, I'd be over at Tommy's place, hanging out with him, and the caretaker would come over and make you need to leave. I'm like, there's a fucking better way to say that. [00:08:09] Speaker B: So you were offended by how the caretaker addressed you? You didn't think to question why the caretaker was like, you need to leave? [00:08:16] Speaker A: No, I knew exactly why the caretaker needed me to leave because it was a medical situation, and HIPAA laws exist. So he has to talk to my friend Tommy about fucking medically relevant shit and finances and all kinds of shit like that. Because the caretaker took care of the finances, made sure that Tommy had like Tommy was able to function, kind of, but not hold down a job. Really? [00:08:52] Speaker B: Exactly. A non functioning member of society who needs a caretaker said, individual is a drain on society. It is a drain of resources. It is a drain of money. What good purpose did Tommy give to society as a whole? [00:09:08] Speaker A: He was my friend. [00:09:10] Speaker B: And why is that important to you? [00:09:12] Speaker A: It was just important just solely to me as Tommy just being my friend. And it's like, oh, yeah, cool. [00:09:21] Speaker B: So how do you view me? [00:09:24] Speaker A: As a high functioning fucking person that can pay bills and shit? [00:09:28] Speaker B: If I needed a caretaker, how would. [00:09:30] Speaker A: You view me if you needed someone to come in and take care of you all the time and change your diapers? [00:09:38] Speaker B: Okay. I'm not just saying, like, I need diapers changed, but I would need assistance figuring out my finances. I would. You do since cooking. Okay, but if I needed a full time caretaker, how would you feel about me? [00:09:50] Speaker A: It's me. [00:09:51] Speaker B: Okay, but when you hit caretaker fatigue, what then? Do you bring a stranger into the house? [00:09:59] Speaker A: No, I just take care of you. [00:10:01] Speaker B: But you will hit caretaker fatigue. And as someone who has not experienced it, I don't know how else to describe it to you. But one day you wake up and you're just so tired that you no longer see your partner, someone to take care of. You see them as a patient, and you see yourself as someone who is exhausted and tired of trying and failing. [00:10:22] Speaker A: See, if you were an old Alzheimer's patient, alzheimer's old timer's patient and you're just like Belligerent all the fucking time, then, yeah, I'd put you in a fucking home. [00:10:38] Speaker B: Why would you put me in a home and not kill me? [00:10:41] Speaker A: Because killing you is illegal. [00:10:42] Speaker B: But I don't want to be, okay, if I reach the point where I need to be put in a home due to advanced stages of dementia, please put me out of my misery. I don't want to be another tax upon society. Slip me some acid and then slip me some fucking cyanide. [00:11:03] Speaker A: No. There's much funer ways to die. [00:11:08] Speaker B: More fun than die than on acid trip. [00:11:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Fucking dying on Dilauded and fentanyl. [00:11:20] Speaker B: I don't like Dilauded. [00:11:22] Speaker A: Dilauded acid and fentanyl. You'll be on Mars, you'll feel really good and then die because that fucking fentanyl will kill you. [00:11:30] Speaker B: Exactly. Like, people like me shouldn't hang up to live any longer than we absolutely fucking hang up to. I see all these people saving their children who are born preemies, and they have all these other complications, and they're nonverbal, and they're not even mentally aware. And it's like, why are you keeping that thing alive? I don't even consider it human. I consider it an essence of life that has no business existing. [00:11:59] Speaker A: Yeah, but here's the thing. Look at your cats, okay? You have goose and chai tea. I have mochi. Why do you keep the cats? What value do they bring to society? [00:12:12] Speaker B: So I see cats as they're killing birds. [00:12:19] Speaker A: Yes. [00:12:19] Speaker B: Okay. Cats do play a predominant role in the extinction of local species of birds. I'm not denying that. And B, that is a bad thing. I agree with you on that point. However, okay, let me try to see this. In other words, like, natural selection means the survival of the fittest, and the fittest continues to produce better offspring that continue to evolve in the correct direction. Evolution is a game. Some genetic mutations work out. Some genetic mutations do not work out. Like, we have hammerhead sharks now, and we no longer have sharks that have, like, the spiral mouth because they only fit in one very specific niche and other niche is gone. They no longer exist, which is important if life is allowed to continue to overpopulate themselves with genetic deformities that are not good, eventually we're going to hit the point of a genetic meltdown. And instead of reaching that point, I would prefer that people who I define as retarded or are not a functional part of member society should have no existence existing or a drain on society. I fully view myself as a parasite. [00:13:36] Speaker A: So you see yourself as a fucking parasite? [00:13:39] Speaker B: Yes. [00:13:41] Speaker A: Like, why, though? [00:13:43] Speaker B: Because it's not fair to me. Like I said in the beginning, I absolutely hate watching people having conversations and free flowing. And if there's, like, a misunderstanding, it's like a couple of seconds, and then everyone understands again, and nothing moves forward when I am confused in a conversation and I have to ask multiple questions about the same thing before I understand. And by the time I understand, everyone else has already moved on in the conversation, and I no longer have part in that conversation. But I still want to talk. But I never know when it is my time to speak. Any other podcast? I'm always interrupting you because I don't understand when it's appropriate for me to speak. I just know my opinion, and I want to get it out there, but it's never at the right time. And then when I realize after the fact, I am so utterly humiliated by my own inability to communicate with everyone around me, it's embarrassing. I hate that I do not view my gifts that outweigh the bad things. [00:14:42] Speaker A: So I do know people that are nonverbal autistic, and I kind of feel like everything back in the day used to just get thrown under the umbrella of retarded. And everything was, oh, your kids retarded. [00:15:03] Speaker B: I do agree with this statement. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Yeah, that's retarded. Everything retarded. 100% of it. [00:15:09] Speaker B: This is the importance of titles. But continue. [00:15:12] Speaker A: And now it's like, oh, I have a nonverbal autistic kid. It's like you are trying to fucking sugarcoat what's going on. I get it. And you really love your kid, and you're a great fucking parent for taking care of your kid, but your kid's retarded. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:15:31] Speaker A: And retarded isn't, like, a super negative thing. It just means slow. Retarded means slow. And it's like, if you can't talk, retarded. [00:15:44] Speaker B: But slow does not exist in a natural order of evolution. Like, slow is immediately weeded out sloths snails. We literally down to three species of sloths. We're down to three. Okay? Like, they're slowly being weeded out. And while they are existing in their own niche of the food chain, when that niche is gone, they will no longer be there, which is ants. [00:16:11] Speaker A: Anteaters, armadillos. [00:16:12] Speaker B: Ants serve a very important purpose. [00:16:14] Speaker A: Skunks, porcupines, spiders, snakes, all slow. [00:16:23] Speaker B: I spend so much more time wishing I was neurotypical because I know my life would be so much easier. I know how much easier my life would be. And I hate that I'm in the awful position of being aware of where I fuck up, but not understanding of how to not fuck up. I'm in the constant cycle of always being in the wrong. No matter how many times I try to change my behavior, I'm always in the wrong, and I'm so tired of it. It's exhausting being autistic. We were not made for this world, and this world was not made for us. Ergo, we have no business trying to exist in it. [00:17:03] Speaker A: Fuck it. See, what you do is you just be like, yeah, I want to fucking live. And anybody has the right to live. I will give it that. Everyone has the right to live. And there's worse fucking people out there that I'd rather fucking kill than retarded people. [00:17:25] Speaker B: Okay? So if you feel like retarded people have the right to exist, what rights are they owed, in your opinion? [00:17:32] Speaker A: Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. [00:17:34] Speaker B: Okay? And if they cannot meet those goals, are they still worthy of life? [00:17:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, they are free. They get to live, and they get to pursue the shit that makes them happy. [00:17:47] Speaker B: But what if they can't? What if they're stuck in the body that they cannot communicate in? [00:17:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, if, you know, essentially a know that does, you know, work towards it brighter tomorrow. Now, if it's like that one movie, Johnny's got his, you know, more people know it as a music video from Metallica's one. Essentially, he was just ahead. Like, he stepped on a landmine, got his legs and arms blown off, and he couldn't see, lost vision. He could hear, but he couldn't speak. I don't know about his fucking nose. I think that got blown off, too. So he was just like a freak of nature and was just like a stump, just like a fucking torso in a head that can fucking nod. And I'm pretty sure the whole fucking thing was like a nurse found out that they can communicate through Morse code because he knew Morse code because he was in the military. And so she would tap on him and transmit messages, and he would nod and transmit messages back, and no one fucking believed her. And then they fucking just sent him off to, like, the circus to be a fucking freak of nature. [00:19:15] Speaker B: So why was he kept alive in the first place? Why is life so valuable to you? [00:19:20] Speaker A: Oh, it's not, honestly. I see someone driving shitty. I'm like they should die. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Okay, so you see someone normal or neurotypical with full bodies and arms driving, and you're like, they should die. You see this dude who had no arms and no legs, was only able to communicate by Morse code, and you feel like he was worthy of life. [00:19:40] Speaker A: Because he wasn't driving. [00:19:43] Speaker B: Okay? But in my opinion, this latter should not have to was like, I feel that is such a commute. [00:19:56] Speaker A: I'm pretty sure in the fucking movie, he was communicating and Morris code to kill him, and the nurse went to go kill him, and then she got caught in the act of trying to kill him for him, and then he got sent off to the fucking exactly. That could be completely fucking wrong. [00:20:13] Speaker B: No, death is a release. It is not a punishment. And yes, I'm quoting Dragon Heart, but I fully stand behind that sentiment. I've heard some people talk about how autistic people are, like, the next level of evolution in humans. Like, we're finding our own niches and specializing in it. And I appreciate where they're coming from, but at the same time, if we were because the problem is, the more intelligent humans became, the more we removed ourselves from the food chain, the more we were able to protect ourselves from our natural predators. We have made ourselves freaks from the animal perspective. And if we're going to continue to populate, for fuck's sake, only the smart people should be repopulating. Like, when I see, like, a down syndrome couple and I'm like, oh, that's cute. But when they have a kid, I'm like, oh, that's fucked up. People should not be passing on bad genetics. One of the reasons why we are not going to have kids, or biological kids. There's the reason why we don't have kids in total. But biologically, I have no desire to pass on my shitty ass genes. I view that as a disrespect to the human race. [00:21:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I just read the end. Yeah, the fucking nurse gets caught and gets sent away after trying to kill him, and then they leave, like, the end ambiguous, under what fucking happens. But they sedate him or fucking kill him. They don't know. But it's like it would be cool if everyone had the option to kill themselves. Yeah, you technically do. Technically, by all metrics, you do have that choice. It's like, don't do it. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Why? [00:22:13] Speaker A: Well, you're not allowed to because you're married to me. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Okay, but no, you said, don't do it. Why is the life of someone who is mentally retarded so important to you? Because they're kind. [00:22:27] Speaker A: No, because they're fucking hilarious to laugh at. And seeing them in the Special Olympics is, like, the only joy I get. [00:22:32] Speaker B: But are you happy if you see them create more offspring? [00:22:36] Speaker A: No, they're not fucking you don't know that shit. [00:22:41] Speaker B: But, like, quality of life is not at all considered in human medicine, and it is so utterly bizarre to me. Okay, so last week we had a kitten come in, eight weeks old, paralyzed in the hind legs. Like, the owners, bless her heart, she's been trying to do physical therapy and whatnot, and the kitten was incontinent. Oh, my God. I did not need to see that image. [00:23:07] Speaker A: It's a bunch of retarded people tripping over hurdles. Hilarious. [00:23:11] Speaker B: The kitten had problems, and the owners were like, well, we just want to keep it alive. And literally, me, my doctor, Till, two other individuals are talking to me like, look, this isn't quality of life. Yes, this kitten can live, and yes, you can put it in diapers, and yes, you can bathe it once a day and syringe feed it and do all this stuff to make sure it stays alive. But isn't that life? [00:23:37] Speaker A: It's like the story of Frankenstein. Like, he created life. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Dr. Frankenstein. [00:23:43] Speaker A: Dr. Frankenstein. Yeah, the story of frankenstein. He Frankenstein. Dr. Victor Frankenstein created life with his assistant Igor. They remade the movie, and it's shitty. [00:23:59] Speaker B: If it's not the Mel Gibson film, I'm not watching it continue. [00:24:02] Speaker A: And so it's like, boom. Hey, look, we fucking injected life into this fucking thing, and the fucking monster just wanted to die. [00:24:11] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:24:12] Speaker A: Because it's like, oh, fuck. I'm like and then everyone fucking thought it was like a monster, which it was. [00:24:19] Speaker B: It was a monster. It was a monster. [00:24:24] Speaker A: So it's like that, yeah, go ahead and kill that. But if someone wants to put forth the effort to keep somebody alive, yeah, go for it. Across the street from Mama's, there's like a retarded dude that lives there, and Mama goes over and puts forth the effort to help him out. [00:24:51] Speaker B: She shouldn't have to do that, though. [00:24:53] Speaker A: But she wants to. [00:24:54] Speaker B: Why? [00:24:55] Speaker A: Mama is a sweet lady, okay? You know this. You've met her. [00:24:59] Speaker B: I know your mama's a sweet lady. [00:25:02] Speaker A: But when Mama dies, do you think there's going to be anyone else? Like, there's going to be a fucking social worker coming out? [00:25:10] Speaker B: But see, that's like, one more person who has to take care of this individual. And wouldn't it be easier if that individual wasn't there in the first place? [00:25:19] Speaker A: Then that's not a job. That fucking social worker no longer has a job, and it fucking sucks for them. [00:25:25] Speaker B: Well, if retarded people were weeded out, there wouldn't be a need for social workers on that standpoint. Social workers play other important roles in society, but like, social workers should caretaker. If you cannot survive on your own, then you kind of don't deserve to live, in my opinion. Like, if the government was like, okay, all retired people need to die, I would volunteer myself as someone who needed to die. [00:25:57] Speaker A: Yeah, but you're someone that pays taxes. [00:26:01] Speaker B: I pay taxes, unfortunately. [00:26:03] Speaker A: So if they're like, hey, all fucking useless people fucking need to die, then would you be okay with that? [00:26:14] Speaker B: Yes. There are literally people who have down syndrome, and they're out there work out there in the work field, and they're making like fifty cents an hour because they're able to be taken advantage of in that kind of way. And if that situation was created around that individual, and if that individual wasn't there, that person would not be in that situation, and the entire situation wouldn't even be there in the first place. Like, having retarded people around creates more work for society, and I don't see that work as rewarding. I just don't like, okay. And this was from homeschool, so I don't know how fucking real this was, but when we learned about Hitler, the first thing we were taught was about and again, this is homeschooled. This is from a Christian homeschool who did not explain to me the fucking bombs in Hiroshima whatsoever. Like, I didn't learn about that until I went to college. But the first thing they talked about with being Hitler was that he was fucking taking out retarded people. And the first time I read that, I was like, yeah, that makes perfect fucking sense. I was on board with that until I found out Hitler was going after specific races like Judaism and that kind of stuff. And I was, hmm. That's genocide. Warfare. And even for me, that's a hard line to cross. But I'm perfectly okay with calling out people like me. If I wasn't at work, there'd be someone at work who was neurotypical, who was also able to join in conversations and would not have to feel the way I do every single day at work, and that would be better for that person. I hate it when I have to see people adjust their behavior for my needs. Like, it's okay when you do it because you're my partner and we are together more than anybody else, and I do rely on you to make those adjustments. But imagine if you had someone you didn't have to make those adjustments for. Think how much easier your life would be. [00:28:08] Speaker A: So I just looked it up. The federal minimum wage is 725. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Thank the Lord. [00:28:12] Speaker A: They have to at least fucking pay them that. [00:28:15] Speaker B: But at least you can pay a retarded person that little per hour. But a neurotypical person in that job could probably be making upwards at least $30 an hour. They're being exploited, which is another reason why they serve no purpose. [00:28:30] Speaker A: But they're also doing a job pushing carts. There's a movie called Sean of the Dead, which is like a fucking, oh. [00:28:42] Speaker B: My God, I love that movie. [00:28:43] Speaker A: So at the end, they fucking take all the zombies and make them do menial tasks and put them in collars and shit. And it's like, hey, guess what? This fucking zombie now pushes carts. This fucking zombie does this fucking dumb bullshit. This zombie does this dumb bullshit. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Okay. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Let'S put it this way. If you had a retarded person working at your clinic and they're only, I. [00:29:12] Speaker B: Am the retarded person working at my clinic. [00:29:14] Speaker A: But you're not, like, full blown retarded. [00:29:18] Speaker B: I will agree with that definition because I looked up, like, actual definitions of this. So continue. [00:29:24] Speaker A: You graduated college. You're not retarded. Yeah, but if you had someone, like, at your work and their only job was to clean up the messes and mop and shit and greet people at the front door, they don't do any of the real fucking tasks. They don't take care of the kids. [00:29:49] Speaker B: They do menial work. [00:29:50] Speaker A: They do menial work. [00:29:51] Speaker B: Okay, so we are approaching the age where robots are going to start taking over menial work. So this little niche you have given retarded people to be as menial workers will be taken away. So now what role do they play in society, in your opinion? Because now they're no longer useful. Now they fully have to be taken care of. [00:30:15] Speaker A: Let them go out and fucking pick up trash on the side of the road. [00:30:18] Speaker B: But robots are going to be doing that. Robots are going to be taking over menial tasks. Not like now, but it's in the future. We are approaching that point where menial tasks are going to be taken over by robots, and that's going to completely uproot everything we've ever known as a society. And that's future society's problem, not our problem. But when that niche is taken away from retarded people, what purpose do they serve? Now, beyond being stupid and being patted on the head? [00:30:48] Speaker A: That's your cats. That's your cats. Exactly. [00:30:52] Speaker B: Okay, well, cats are a lot cheaper to take care of than a human being is. [00:30:59] Speaker A: When we get to that point, we'll find something for them to do. Okay, how about this? [00:31:05] Speaker B: So you still see them as valuable. Why? [00:31:11] Speaker A: I see retarded people as valuable because they're fucking people. They're individuals, okay? And I have friends that society you would deem retarded special, whatever the fuck. I don't care. They're still good fucking people. [00:31:32] Speaker B: But what purpose do they serve being. [00:31:35] Speaker A: A good fucking person? When you look at a lot of fucking things, like these lights that go around my room, what purpose do they serve? [00:31:48] Speaker B: They illuminate. [00:31:49] Speaker A: Yeah, but no, that fucking light up there illuminates. If that light up there was off, this room would be pretty fucking dark. [00:31:57] Speaker B: But you can turn up the volume of the light, though, can you not? [00:32:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I can make it brighter, but it wouldn't fucking be the illumination that the room needed. That light up there is the illumination the room needs. [00:32:09] Speaker B: But you can make it brighter. It can serve a greater purpose. Retarded people can only go so high, and then that's it. They can't be improved upon. [00:32:20] Speaker A: They can learn more shit, more and more and more, and it's like, cool. This retarded person is learning this. This retarded person is learning that. There's a great book and movie called Flowers for Algernon. I don't know if you read it. [00:32:39] Speaker B: Or seen it from the way you've described to me. I have no desire to read it. I see it literally just as proving my own point, not proving yours. [00:32:47] Speaker A: No. [00:32:53] Speaker B: The rat dies, right? Well, it was a mouse, but the mouse dies, right? Yeah, that's the key point. The animal died, and that's all that matters to me. [00:33:03] Speaker A: So it was a retarded dude named Charlie that worked in a factory, like, fucking sweeping shit up menial tasks. And then someone comes to him like, hey, we have this formula that can make you smart. Would you like to do it? And he's like, they're like, we'll take that as a yes. And so they bring him in, give him the medicine, and he becomes smart, and he becomes one of the most productive fucking members in the factory. He finds a way to fucking rearrange the machines to make more efficient. Do this, do. That. And if you haven't fucking seen any of the shit by now, fuck you. At the end, it's discovered that the medication is slowly killing them while fucking overworking their brains. [00:33:53] Speaker B: Oh, I'm perfectly fine with this then. [00:33:55] Speaker A: And it's like, here, you know? And so they have to take Charlie. [00:34:00] Speaker B: Off of it, and he goes back to being stupid. He needed help, and without the help, he was no good than just doing a menial task without the help. He needed the help. And that's where I have an issue with it. If you're not able to take care of yourself on your own, then someone needs to help you. And then that person is put through extra tasks, and it's a drain on society. [00:34:30] Speaker A: See, I would be down for killing all homeless people and all fucking life inmates. If you're in prison for the rest of your life, no chance of parole, kill that guy. Why the fuck are we fucking paying to keep this guy in prison behind bars? [00:34:46] Speaker B: So health is different than our tax money is being used for social workers to be caretakers for mentally disabled. [00:34:52] Speaker A: Well, mentally disabled people aren't fucking ruining everything. [00:34:56] Speaker B: How are they not ruining things? Because I view them as ruining things. [00:35:00] Speaker A: They're not. They're nice people. [00:35:05] Speaker B: Niceness matters to you? [00:35:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Fucking if you're a nice person, if you're a good parent, you get fucking bonus points in my book, okay? [00:35:15] Speaker B: There's a difference between being a nice person and being a parent. That is a whole different level of responsibility. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Now, I have fucking seen retarded people shit them, pants have fucking meltdowns in stores, and you see, like, the parents like, fuck, oh, Jesus Christ, I don't want to deal with this right now. But that's what it is, and you have to fucking deal with it. [00:35:43] Speaker B: You have to deal with it. I have a client at Mork, and she comes out. She has two cats. She has three children, all under the age of six. They all have some form of mental disability. Only one of them is verbal. And when she brings them in with the cats, these children are just fucking awful. We'll be in the room, and the kids are, like, running around. They're flicking the switches, they're pulling stuff out of the cabinets. Literally one time, the mom was just holding the door shut while a child was underneath her trying to open it, trying to open the door while she was pulling her full weight against it to keep him from opening the door. And I was like, what kind of life is that? Not only for the child, but for the mother. She lives with that every single day. [00:36:32] Speaker A: And that's got to be she made a mistake once, and then she made. [00:36:36] Speaker B: A mistake three times. [00:36:38] Speaker A: I know you didn't let me finish my thought. [00:36:40] Speaker B: I did not. I apologize. [00:36:42] Speaker A: But see, when it's my turn to speak, fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. It's fool me three times, can't be fooled again. And it's like you have a broken retarded pussy and that pops out. Retarded kids. Why did you have three of them? If you have one, that's one thing. It's like, okay, cool. You have one fucking retarded kid and one that's good. Don't fuck old men. This is where I'm going to stand on this. Old come makes retarded kids. I think I'm onto something with this. [00:37:25] Speaker B: I have no idea how old her partner is. [00:37:29] Speaker A: Old come? Young people in their 20s aren't really making retarded kids. [00:37:34] Speaker B: How do you know that? If anything, I view younger people as the cause of retarded kids because how. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Old is your dad? [00:37:42] Speaker B: God, I don't know. Hopefully dead. [00:37:45] Speaker A: He's not, but God, I wish he was. Okay, your dad was older is. Your parents were old when they had you. [00:37:54] Speaker B: Okay, so my mother was they were both in their 30s. [00:37:57] Speaker A: That's old. [00:37:58] Speaker B: Is it old? [00:37:59] Speaker A: That's old. [00:38:00] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:38:00] Speaker A: Have kids in your 20s. [00:38:02] Speaker B: Pregnancy isn't considered geriatric until you're in your 40s. [00:38:06] Speaker A: Yeah, you're halfway to fucking geriatric. So have kids in your 20s, your early fucking twenty s I know it's going to fucking suck, but if you want to have a kid, that's the time to do it. When you have good, viro fucking young come, go for it. [00:38:23] Speaker B: Okay? There is genetic testing available now for this kind of shit, right? Like, if I was pregnant, like you and I was pregnant with our biological child and it tested positive for down syndrome or autism or whatnot, I would be like, let's abort it. You wouldn't even have a say in the matter. I would immediately abort it. If I was not going to give birth to a neurotypical child, I would abort it 100%, okay? I know how difficult it is to live like me, and I would not wish this on even my worst enemy. I hate being the outcast, okay? [00:39:00] Speaker A: Here's this situation. What if I was out in whatever fucking chaining up and I slip on some ice and hit my head and go, retarded? Would you take care of me? [00:39:14] Speaker B: No. I'd take you out. [00:39:15] Speaker A: You'd kill me. [00:39:16] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. Humanely. [00:39:19] Speaker A: What if I'm like, I love you. [00:39:21] Speaker B: Baby, I'm sorry, but I would not be your caretaker. [00:39:25] Speaker A: Would you, like, at least fuck me and be like, I like my penis. [00:39:28] Speaker B: Inside you if you were talking like that while we were fucking? No. [00:39:34] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, baby. Oh, yeah. [00:39:37] Speaker B: Okay, fine. I would jack you off one more time, but I'd kill you afterwards and you're like, post cumcoma or like, I. [00:39:44] Speaker A: Would not make, like, Of Mice and Men type shit. I did that bad saying. George, I know Lenny Bang that movie. [00:39:55] Speaker B: Was gross, but, like, how is that gross? Okay, you and I might be thinking of a different movie, to be honest. [00:40:03] Speaker A: But Of Mice and Men is like a movie about George and Lenny. George is a fucking normal dude. Lenny is a big old giant retard. [00:40:11] Speaker B: Is this where they buy some old chick's house and then the chick fuck the retarded dude trying to get back to him? Mice and fans tasted okay. Yeah, we're thinking about two different movies. [00:40:20] Speaker A: Well, one of the things is he finds like, a mouse and he's like, oh, I found a mouse, George. And it bites him. He's like and he kills it. [00:40:31] Speaker B: Yeah. If you're so stupid that you kill an animal just because it attacked you, I'm sorry. You don't deserve to live. [00:40:38] Speaker A: And then the chick wanted to she was like the wife of the rich dude that owned the ranch they were all working on. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Great. So floozy. Continue. I'm so sexist. Okay, continue. [00:40:55] Speaker A: And so she was like, hey, you want to get here? And he's like, you want to touch my hair? And she's like, oh, yeah. And he kind of starts petting her really hard. And she's like, OOH, stop that. That hurts. And then he's like, oh, no, don't do that. And she starts screaming. And then he crushes her head. [00:41:14] Speaker B: Oh, for a second I thought this is going to sound like Step Brothers, but continue. [00:41:17] Speaker A: No, he kills her. And then he's like, oh, fuck. And then he runs away. And the husband of the woman is out to kill him. And obviously George has to go find him and fucking kill him humanely because he was going to beat the shit out of him. [00:41:32] Speaker B: Exactly. Death was the result for both individuals. The end goal was death for both his friend and for the chick's husband who had died. Like, death was the end result. [00:41:43] Speaker A: No, chick's husband fucking lived. [00:41:46] Speaker B: Okay? But no, he was also after the retarded dude, both of their goals was to kill him. It was just humanely versus not humanely. Yes. So your argument kind of proved my point. [00:41:58] Speaker A: How retarded people he was a fucking good worker on the ranch, but he. [00:42:03] Speaker B: Killed someone accidentally because his wife because. [00:42:07] Speaker A: His wife was a slut. [00:42:09] Speaker B: Okay, I'm not absolving the wife of her slutty behavior, which I'm assuming, based on your description, however, probably a fiance. But yeah, whatever. The point is at the end of the movie, everyone agreed, okay? Yeah, he needs to die. And that's my point. Like, if you don't serve a purpose in the Drayon Society, you have no business living. And if we have the ability to screen for this kind of shit, we should. And we should abort said individuals before they're even fucking born. [00:42:39] Speaker A: Like, what about a retarded cat? [00:42:40] Speaker B: I'm not saying individual. [00:42:43] Speaker A: Would you get rid of a retarded cat? [00:42:45] Speaker B: Yes. I fucking hate it when people bring in their hydrocephalus cat with the shaking kindred. [00:42:51] Speaker A: You have two retarded cats. [00:42:54] Speaker B: I have cats that have enough brain cells to breathe and eat and they can walk fine on their paws and don't require diapers. Like, when people bring in those kind of cats, I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? [00:43:04] Speaker A: Why is because it's adorable. [00:43:07] Speaker B: But instead of adopting a perfectly healthy cat stuck in a shelter, they are taking care of this physically disabled cat that requires extra time and care and money. They could go adopt a perfectly healthy cat, but they're dealing with this genetic deformity and they're like, praising themselves for taking care of it. And I'm just absolutely disgusted by them. [00:43:29] Speaker A: Like, me, I wouldn't get a fucking wobbly kitten, but I think they're cute on the internet. [00:43:35] Speaker B: Exactly. You think they're cute when they are not part of your physical life. [00:43:39] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. No, I want to get one myself. Like I like smart. Know when I got mochi. She was a smart cat. And she is a smart cat. [00:43:49] Speaker B: She is a smart cat. She's too smart for her own good. But that's the point. She's fucking smart. Like, if I were to get pregnant multiple times and every single time that fetus tested positive for some sort of mental disability, I'd be like, fuck it, I'm not getting pregnant anymore. We're going to go adopt a neurotypical child. [00:44:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, adoption is great. [00:44:10] Speaker B: Adopt don't shop. But the point is, why are you taking care of a mentally disabled individual when you can put that individual down and then invest your energy into a neurotypical individual? Okay? It's a waste of your time. You're raising someone who cannot be a normal functioning member of society versus letting someone who is in a shelter environment live on their own. Like, by taking care of the retarded person, you are doing a disservice to a neurotypical person who needs a home. Oh, I like what I just said. Yeah, it's a disservice. It's disrespectful to life when life should be about survival of the fittest. I 100% am appalled at A, our lack of population control, but B, the shit that we allow to be alive. There's all these videos in social media about this couple have this child who is completely nonverbal. He's like all this extra care. They're constantly looking for doctors to figure out what's wrong with their child, all this awful stuff. And I'm like, not only are they putting their child through it, they're putting themselves through it. It's exhausting. And in my opinion, the life is not that important. Let the fucker die. And either A, have a new biological child or B, adopt don't put yourself through that. Like, it's not only the quality of life of that fucking suffering child, but also the quality of life of the parents who are now forcing themselves to take care of it. I can't respect it. I look down upon it. I think they're fucking losers for trying to do that. Like the chick I mentioned before, the client, every time she comes in, I feel nothing but pity and disgust for her. And when she comes in, and she brings in these cats who are sick and rebrand medication, and she's never able to fully give it on time. She's never able to actually help us fucking heal the cat because she can't stay on top of the treatments because she's so busy taking care of those three mutated human beings. Like, she should not have cats in the first place because she's so busy taking care of those fucking genetic fuck ups, she can't even take care of her cats properly. And I also cannot respect that and look down upon her for that. Am I Hitler? [00:46:30] Speaker A: You're a particular kind of evil. [00:46:34] Speaker B: Am I chaotic? I'm chaotic. [00:46:36] Speaker A: No, you're evil. Evil? Yes. [00:46:40] Speaker B: Whenever I take those stupid personality tests, I always come out out as chaotic good. And I'm like, no, I desire to be chaotic neutral. It irritates me that I am not evil, but that's another thing. I went through all the fucking abuse I went through, and I grew up into this kind person. And I also resent that. I resent the fact that I am so not angry with the world. It pisses me off. But that was, like, my only option, though. I could escape from them and be just like them, or I could be the opposite of them, which I am. But I also don't respect that. Sometimes I hate how nice and understanding of a person I am. [00:47:20] Speaker A: Yeah, you're a very nice person. [00:47:23] Speaker B: I know the main reason I'm nice is because I absolutely have to be. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Because you're retarded them? [00:47:31] Speaker B: But also because I'm retarded. Yes, I do take that incantability. Like, I am too fucking kind. But I have so many issues existing in this world, and there are so many days where it's not worth it. But I refuse to kill myself because of Stoicism, which defines staying alive as the most heroic event you can do within your own life. Okay. And I believe in Stoicism, so I have to apply to those laws because that is my own true belief. Or go, I have not killed myself, but if I start getting Alzheimer's, like, I start getting dementia, like, when I start seeing the signs of myself going downhill, I am going to take myself out because I view that as my responsibility to society. I don't want you to turn into my caretaker. That is, like, one of the worst things I could fucking that's like one of my worst fears is you turning into my caretaker. And I don't want that. I don't want a character, a caretaker. I don't want any position where I need a caretaker. [00:48:30] Speaker A: Well, I mean, I can position, take off your diaper, clean you all up. Fuck you. [00:48:35] Speaker B: But do you want that? [00:48:37] Speaker A: I mean, I feel like the novelty will wear off quick. [00:48:41] Speaker B: And after the novelty wears off, do you keep me alive or will you do me the decency of taking me out? [00:48:47] Speaker A: No, just rent you out and be like, hey, who wants to fuck a retarded chick? [00:48:52] Speaker B: Death is a release. It is not a punishment. [00:48:55] Speaker A: I'll just put some fentanyl in you, fucking put you to sleep. And it's like, this man fucking rented out his wife to strange men. It's like, oh, this guy's a monster. [00:49:06] Speaker B: The sooner I die, the sooner my soul is going out to the karma universe, and I'm going to be reincarnated as a cat, okay? That is my only goal after death, is to come back as a cat. If I don't come back as a cat or an octopus, I don't want to fucking come back. I don't ever fucking want to be a human being again. I hate my body. I have so many physical illnesses. I have all this mental shit. Like, my life is not pleasant. I am alive, and I must be alive because this is me being the strong, being strongest in the most strong way I can possibly be. But if I did not save repurpose, like, if I was not able to hold down a job, if I was not able to pay taxes, I would have no business being in society. And if more people like me are also no place being in society, like, I should not have been born in the first place. My parents should have tested me for this genetic stuff. Been like, oh, this is a fuck up. No, let's get rid of this fetus now. I should not have had to be born into this body. With this brain. I resent my existence far more than I am happy about it. And if this is how I feel, is this me pushing my own assumptions onto other individuals? This is me being selfish, isn't it? [00:50:23] Speaker A: Yeah. You're a bad person. [00:50:26] Speaker B: Thank you. I so take that as a compliment. But, yeah, retarded people have no business being alive and being a drain upon society. I have no business being alive. And the second I am unable to provide any sort of usefulness to society, I have no business being alive. [00:50:49] Speaker A: Okay, I can see where you're coming from. You look at retarded people the same way I look at homeless people. [00:50:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that's precisely how I look. Yeah. Thank you for understanding my side. I appreciate it. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Get rid of the homeless people and you're saying, get rid of the retarded people. They serve no fucking purpose to you. And it's like, okay, I get that. [00:51:16] Speaker B: Not to me, to society as a. [00:51:18] Speaker A: Whole, but I get where you're coming from, and I can respect your fucking point of view. Thank you. [00:51:27] Speaker B: As I respect yours. [00:51:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, you're a bad person for wanting to kill retards, but everyone deserves life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But if you're fucking ruining my pursuit of happiness, I'm going to kill you. What's up, Mo? [00:51:46] Speaker B: Okay, so retarded people are part of your tribe, then? [00:51:49] Speaker A: Yeah, you are retarded. [00:51:52] Speaker B: True enough. [00:51:53] Speaker A: So we're going to go ahead and end right there. Follow me. Instagram, Twitter, Alexatruck, everywhere. And we'll be back next week, hopefully, with Tron here at the end of October. Tron is going to take a few weeks off up to take care of some other so, yeah, bye.