Open Boarders

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Alrighty. Alrighty. We are back. This is Argue this with Alex, A Truck and Troniwani. [00:00:06] Speaker B: Yo. [00:00:08] Speaker A: This week we're gonna talk about open borders, the judge getting arrested, all that kind of, you know, should, you know. And we are not lawyers, and we're not your lawyer and we don't ever claim to be. We are a couple dumbasses on the Internet. But let's talk about that judge over there in Wisconsin that got arrested by the government because that judge decided not to follow the law to aid and embed an illegal immigrant. Someone that is here illegally and hide them from federal agents. A state worker hiding people from federal agents who got arrested anyway and is going to get deported anyway. And then that judge, you know, came through and got arrested themselves. So I'm all for this, a hundred percent. Good job. Federal agents, good job. You know, everyone that was in that arresting that, you know, crooked, corrupt judge piece of, you know, how do you feel about it? [00:01:21] Speaker B: Hold up. Time out, time out, time out, time out. The verbiage you used on crooked corrupt judge, Wouldn't some of our Supreme Court justices also be in that category? [00:01:34] Speaker A: Are they aiding abetting criminals? [00:01:35] Speaker B: Hold on, wait. We're not talking the aid abetting part. We're just talking those direct words you used of crooked and corrupt. [00:01:42] Speaker A: Can you give me proof that they are crooked and corrupt? [00:01:46] Speaker B: Yes, with taking, what's it called, gifts and money and trips that they shouldn't have legally been able to take. [00:01:55] Speaker A: As long as it does not. It's not. As long as it does not, you know, affect any judgment or anything like that. You know, should their parents not be allowed to give them Christmas presents? You know, should their son not be able to come up. Hey, dad, here's a. Here's a Christmas present for you. No, I can't take that. I'm a judge. No, only if, like they are, you know, in a case and it is a, you know, what is it a conflict of interest to take, you know, such a thing. So say if Al Capone was, you know, getting arrested and the judge that, you know, was presiding over Al Capone's case, you know, got, you know, a 70 million dollar yacht from Al Capone. He's like, hey, here you go, Judge, this is a gift for you. And then they accept that and then they go light on Al Capone's case. That is a conflict of interest. [00:02:54] Speaker B: Yeah, but they've had to have that with Clarence Thomas and whatnot with site when they do cases against, what's it called, other CEOs and corporations. And those same corporations are donate to their funds and stuff. [00:03:12] Speaker A: They're allowed to donate to their funds. Congratulations, you found out how, you know, everything works but you know, they're not allowed to donate to that person. Like, like they can't just be like, hey, here is money for you. They can, don't like I can donate a million dollars to Donald Trump's, you know, political campaign all day long. You know, it's not donating to Donald Trump, it's not giving him money. It's not any conflict of interest. So I mean, you know, it's all falling apart. [00:03:50] Speaker B: It's not falling apart cuz like one of the cases that they're trying to get for Clarence Thompson to resign right now is that super yacht and stuff that he was given from Harland Crow during all that other stuff that was. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Going down from Harlan Crow. Let's do some research right now. I love doing research on the podcast. Who is Harlan Crow? Oh man, this guy looks diabolical in front of his fireplace. Know he is a real estate developer and a conservative activist, you know and oh look, you know, Democratic website, I, I click on the link and they are immediately asking for money. The lowest amount that they want is $50, 50 to $1,000. No, I'm just going to click the X and, and see, you know, what, what they have. [00:04:56] Speaker B: So does it make you feel at least any better that I agree with you the Democrats are money hungry, as in always ask for money but they don't provide results for their people. [00:05:09] Speaker A: Democrats have never, you know, done anything for their people. Let's see. [00:05:15] Speaker B: Time out, time out. I do think in my lifetime Clinton hot take cuz again, some of the other stuff he did with other women. But Clinton was our best president in my lifetime. Economy was good, everything was good. [00:05:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that's back in the day when fucking people weren't a bunch of pussies. [00:05:36] Speaker B: What do you mean? [00:05:37] Speaker A: Nowadays I feel like a lot of. [00:05:39] Speaker B: People are, you know, before Clinton was Bush and then it was Clinton and it was Daddy or her. So it was Daddy Bush, then Clinton than Bush. [00:05:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you know, Monica Lewinsky had to come and you know, suck all of his success away. [00:05:54] Speaker B: Dang. Like I said, I don't agree with some of his actions, but yeah, I. [00:06:01] Speaker A: Mean you just hate him because he's black. It's fine. You know, you, you like Clinton. I said no, I'm talking about Clarence. [00:06:08] Speaker B: Oh, Clarence. Yeah, I would like that. [00:06:12] Speaker A: I almost said way hard. Oh my, oh my God. I don't care. He Thomas Was born in Pinpoint, Georgia is Uncle Tom. [00:06:34] Speaker B: Look at that face. That's what. No, he made after. You can't. I'm waiting. [00:06:43] Speaker A: What, what exactly did Clarence Thomas do? He chaired the EEOC, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission from 1982 to 1990. As chairman, he was tasked with enforcing civil Rights Acts of 1964. And that I, I agree with that. That's great. You know. [00:07:07] Speaker B: Yeah, you could be right on a couple of things and then be wrong on other stuff. [00:07:12] Speaker A: I'm right on everything. I'm a Republican. We're the right wing. Also known as the correct wing. [00:07:19] Speaker B: Boo. [00:07:20] Speaker A: I know. [00:07:22] Speaker B: And not only that, but like again, I as a lefty could critique my own leaders. I don't hear Republicans critique their own self appointed leaders or leaders. [00:07:37] Speaker A: He's black. The Democrats would fucking have a heyday. If we're like, oh, this black man did something wrong. They beg, no protect him. He's a black man. [00:07:47] Speaker B: That stopped y'all from saying stuff about Obama, right? [00:07:51] Speaker A: I mean he was the Democrat and. [00:07:59] Speaker B: It'S like, so if Thomas was a Democrat, that it would be. [00:08:04] Speaker A: Oh yeah, we had attack him hardcore. We drop hard Rs, we draw swastikas. We'd have to like go to the Democrats and to the left wing and beg, hey, how do you draw swastikas? This way or this way? Because you guys have been busy fucking, you know, spray painting them on Tesla's non stop and you got really good at it, which makes me, you know, wonder about you guys. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Guys, the original Democrat party was the. [00:08:30] Speaker A: You know, the right or the, you know, evil racists. Yes, the ones that wanted to keep slavery around. And the Republicans like Abraham Lincoln, the one that freed all the slaves. Yeah, you know, we, we are the good guys. We've always been the good guys. [00:08:48] Speaker B: No, do you acknowledge that the party fool lipped. [00:08:52] Speaker A: We're not racist. No one on the right wing is racist. No one that loves. We just love guns and freedom and not having the government tell us what the to do. [00:09:04] Speaker B: And yes, part political party typically has Nazi paraphernalia or the left wing or the southern paraphernalia. [00:09:16] Speaker A: The left wing, really, really? [00:09:20] Speaker B: The left wing has, is the one that usually has Nazi flags or, or KKK hats. [00:09:28] Speaker A: Which party is known for spray painting swastikas? [00:09:33] Speaker B: Oh, I'll give you that, I'll give you that. The left is spray paint swastikas. That's. That was a whole thing of like punk and anti fascist. Yeah, I'm not saying they're right, but they're also. Yes, they're the ones who are spray painting that on vandalizing property with it. I am using the words correctly. Yes, they are vandalizing property with it, but they are not the ones going out to the store buying flags and stuff and keeping it in their household. [00:10:05] Speaker A: I feel like that's just, you know, white supremacists. And to say white supremacists are right wing is insane. White supremacists like guns and don't like to be pussies. So it's like, okay, the only thing I have left is right wing. Now if the, you know, or the right wing, if the left wing was, you know, kind of like tougher, you know, tough on crime and all kinds of shit, then yeah, they might be like left wing too. [00:10:32] Speaker B: So then, because they like your ideas. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Are there any Democratic Nazis? [00:10:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:42] Speaker A: The Democratic Party of Germany. [00:10:47] Speaker B: I literally just said yes. [00:10:51] Speaker A: The core ideologies of the Democratic Party and Nazism are fundamentally incompatible. [00:10:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I understand that, but same as every group. Every group there's going to be a fringe. It could be 1%, it could be up to 7%. But every group's going to have that really dumb amount of group people. [00:11:10] Speaker A: Yeah, that's like 90% of the Democrats. No, they're the ones that are out here fucking defending terrorists. [00:11:19] Speaker B: And then. [00:11:20] Speaker A: Would you really. [00:11:22] Speaker B: Okay, let's just say that we get. We culturally, right now, as America could decide to split America, as in Democrat versus Republican. Y'all get these states, they get these things. [00:11:36] Speaker A: I love that. [00:11:38] Speaker B: Why isn't that fundamentally against America? [00:11:41] Speaker A: I think we even talked about this. Building the wall. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Doesn't. Isn't that like America seceding? And that's against that? Like, literally isn't all this anti anti American? [00:11:53] Speaker A: Like, I had this thought experiment, you know, while on my truck one day, and it's like, take two towns, you know, and, you know, have a thousand people. Like a Schitt's Creek town where there's, you know, jobs for everybody. Everyone can get a job. You know, everyone has housing. Like, it's taken care of for everybody. You know, a thousand people, boom, boom, boom. You know, a few families, you know, like, I'd say, you know, 400 to 500 families, you know, move into each of these towns. They're not, you know, trapped. They can, you know, move in and out, go take vacations, go do whatever, but they survive in these towns. And the people that reside in these towns make the laws for these towns. And, you know, just two random towns, you know, no walls, no nothing. And one side is, you know, extreme left and one side is extreme right. And see how these towns do. You know, other people can move in. You know, it's not like, hey, no one else can live here. No people can move in. And. But, you know, if you want to move in, you have to be, you know, democratic or, you know, if you want to move another one, you have to be Republican and see which town does better. You can, you know, be like, oh, yeah, let's. Let's do this. And, you know, I'm sure, like, one will be like, okay, yep, we're like this, and, you know, everything is fine. And the other town, like, there's going to be extreme ideologies that, you know, pop out in the towns. But I, I want to see, like, what town at the end of it is better or if, like, one town has, like, you know, has like a murder problem or drug problem or anything like that, you know, and the government cannot step in, you know, except to, you know, give them, like, support, like money. And they get. Each get the same amount of money. [00:13:55] Speaker B: But the government has to be there to provide water. Like, they're not regular things like, you know, electricity, water. [00:14:03] Speaker A: Why can't they provide it themselves? Like, like you. You have the town, you know, like, on the grid and you, like, just pay for the electricity. [00:14:13] Speaker B: Like, you're paying it from the government, right? [00:14:15] Speaker A: No, the people that live there work jobs and pay for the electricity. [00:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah, they're paying the electric. Where are they buying electricity from? [00:14:23] Speaker A: From power plants. Electric companies are private companies. They're not government, you know, subsidies or anything like that. It's like private companies. Like, we get our electricity from, you know, Colorado Springs Utilities Company and, you know, like, we have power plants all throughout that, you know, generate the electricity. Like, we just shut down one of the giant power plants. Remember the big, giant cloud of smoke in the middle of town. That was a power plant. Yeah, yeah. Shut that shit down. Now it's further out. [00:14:59] Speaker B: So clarifying what I was saying, though, about the government, I was thinking, like, you're just building a town and then you're building the electric grid and stuff like that. And the reason why I added the government is because, yes, our electric good is maintained and prophetized off of private, or. What's it called, Corporations, but it's because of our governmental, what's it called, Incentives of giving them money or tax breaks to build it. [00:15:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, no, like, everyone that lives in these towns still has to, you know, pay like a. You know, they have to work and you Know, pay for stuff. [00:15:38] Speaker B: No, no. Yeah, I'll get you on that again. That's why I was just saying the government, I brought up roads and other stuff is again, it's all we pay our taxes, which then subsidizes out for all that care. My bad on that clarification of that. [00:15:54] Speaker A: Yeah, no, like, it'd be like in the same state, like, but the state, you know, laws inside the, you know, town. Like, pretty much like we'd have, you know, basic laws, like, no murder. None of this, none of that. Nothing that you can go into this town and like, you know, find a loophole around and just come back out of the town. You know, obviously you can't, like, big. Okay. But like, if you want to, like, be a cave, drugs illegal in this town, if like the Democrats, like, we want to make, you know, it legal, that and you can't, you know, fuck with people, you know, on drugs. [00:16:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I got you two towns Americanized, all the American normal amenities and stuff. Just these are test subject towns. That's all. Yeah, I got, I got you on what you're doing. [00:16:40] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, it's a little. [00:16:42] Speaker B: Vaulty ish for fallout, but I got you. [00:16:44] Speaker A: I mean, like, they're allowed to leave. Like, you're not like. But it's like, hey, here you go, you know, go out and enjoy, you know, if you want to, you know, go build a garden, you can go build a garden, you know, and, you know, the original party, the original group of families that come there to live there, you know, get to vote on, you know, what the laws of the land are going to be. [00:17:12] Speaker B: Herb. [00:17:15] Speaker A: You know, and Supreme Court, nothing can step in. And, and I just, like, I'd run it for one year and be like, okay, let's see how it, you know, handles after a year. [00:17:26] Speaker B: No, you gotta do it like 10 years. [00:17:28] Speaker A: Well, I, like, I, I, I'd run it for the year and see how it handles. And if it's like, good, then I could expand it to, you know, from, you know, a thousand people to like 2000 people. Add another thousand in there. [00:17:43] Speaker B: That's fair. [00:17:44] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:17:44] Speaker B: I think for what to get answers of what you're looking for, it would have to be at least 10 years because a generation of things, ideas and stuff that happened. [00:17:56] Speaker A: No, like, every year, like, they would have like a little, you know, election for who's going to be the mayor or whatever. [00:18:01] Speaker B: And again, very fallouty. You get what we get. Ours. [00:18:06] Speaker A: They didn't get, they didn't get Elections for the Overseer in the fallout. [00:18:10] Speaker B: Some of them did. [00:18:11] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, but. Yeah, like, the. The vault is like the. That is the base idea. I get where you're coming from, but it's not like an isolated thing where you cannot leave. You know, if you do, if you're like, I'm done with this town, it's like, okay, and then they cannot replace you. [00:18:35] Speaker B: You know, they just lose a citizen. [00:18:38] Speaker A: They lose a citizen unless somebody else wants to move in. [00:18:42] Speaker B: Okay? [00:18:42] Speaker A: Like, they can put their house up for sale. And then it's like, hey, you're now a citizen of this whole thing. And the people that leave, it's like, hey, guess what? You know, you get no say in any of. And you can go talk to the press. You can have the press come in and be like, hey, how is it living here? And, you know, oh, this is a crazy experiment going on. And, you know, I just want to see how the two towns do, you know, is one gonna be overflowed with homeless people because their local government is going to, you know, support the homeless. Is the right wing gonna pull ahead? Because of course they would. Okay. [00:19:28] Speaker B: I don't think pulling ahead material stuff over humanity is winning anyways, but to each their own. [00:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, I. I'm the type of person that, you know, thinks that, you know, some people are not necessary. [00:19:52] Speaker B: So what do you base a good society off of? Like, your. Your idea of this society is functioning. This is great. This is what we should strive for. [00:20:05] Speaker A: So, you know, how communism kind of looks good on paper like that, you know, where, like, everyone fucking does a job, you know, that is necessary to, you know, make life easier for everybody else. Many hands make light work and, you know, I don't need the government coming in and, you know, being like, hey, somebody else did something. So you can't do this now because you might do this. You know, somebody else took a machine gun and went and committed a crime with it. So we're going to take that machine gun away from you so you don't also commit the crimes. [00:20:44] Speaker B: But isn't that basically laws? And how laws are passed is like, well, we have. Murder is illegal because people have been doing that. And that is wrong because it's causing issues. Same as being a pedo is illegal because it is wrong and it causes people issues. Isn't that literally the idea of laws is because somebody did something wrong? So we make it illegal. So it's. There's a punishment for it. [00:21:15] Speaker A: Well, I mean, like, pedophilia from, like, the beginning of time was, like, looked down upon. Except for, like, in Greece, for some reason. [00:21:24] Speaker B: No, there's some Bible people who, like, did some stuff that, like. [00:21:28] Speaker A: Yeah, in Greece and over there in that area of the world. [00:21:32] Speaker B: What is that area of the world? [00:21:33] Speaker A: The fucking European area of the world. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:21:38] Speaker A: You know, they're. They're like, yeah, children's buttholes. And like, like, anybody that's like a reasonable human being ever at all should be like, yeah, that's wrong. [00:21:49] Speaker B: Boo. [00:21:50] Speaker A: Down with pedophiles. [00:21:53] Speaker B: It is. And. But like, we needed laws to then make sure society understands that it's wrong. [00:22:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it should be fucking death penalty immediately for any pedophile. It's like, oh, you know, you wouldn't touch the kid. Okay, death. Here you go. Enjoy. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Like, okay, so we as us, like, you as a human, you as in Alex, could like, absolutely feel pedophilia is a known thing of it being wrong. But what about rape then? [00:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah, rape is also bad, but we've. [00:22:31] Speaker B: Had that since the beginning of time as well. And even in some countries, it's still not illegal, but we have laws against that. What. [00:22:41] Speaker A: What country is rape legal? Name one where rape is legal. I'll fact check it right now. [00:22:51] Speaker B: I don't have one. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Okay, I. I'll. I'll. I'll fact check. Anywhere in the world. Is rape legal anywhere in the world? Rape is not legal in any country. [00:23:03] Speaker B: Although legal definitions. [00:23:04] Speaker A: Although legal definitions of rape and how it's prosecuted may vary. Many crim. Countries criminalize rape based on lack of consent, while others for focus on force or inability to resist. While countries still promote rapists to marry the victims to avoid prosecution, which is viewed as a violation of human rights. [00:23:25] Speaker B: Right, which is where I was talking about, like, again, I didn't. I couldn't. I don't have the words for it, but again, spousal rape is the thing and like, stuff like that. [00:23:41] Speaker A: I mean, then you leave. [00:23:47] Speaker B: All I'm saying is laws are based off of someone fudging it up. And now we're all like, no, because this one person did it. [00:23:56] Speaker A: I mean, do you think everyone should take off their shoes at the airport? Or do you think technology has reached a point where, you know, I don't have to take off my shoes at the airport? [00:24:07] Speaker B: I. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Are you talking about the shoe bomber? [00:24:10] Speaker B: Yes, for tsa. [00:24:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:12] Speaker B: I think that's more performative than actually doing it. So it's there to make you feel safe. Even though it, like, it's the same as the life jacket in plane. It's not. It's there so they could find your body instead of there for you to survive. [00:24:27] Speaker A: I mean, they tell you to put your head between your legs so that way you die when they crash the plane. [00:24:33] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. It's performative. So I don't. [00:24:36] Speaker A: So yeah, we, we shouldn't, you know, take off our shoes because if you go to Europe or any other place in the world, they're like, what the are you doing? Why are you taking off your shoes? You're dumb. Stop that. [00:24:47] Speaker B: Right? Some laws are dumb and some are needed. That doesn't, that doesn't go up against my statement of where you said that should the government do this because somebody did that. Again, my state. My response is yes, Mochi. Maybe not on everything, but yes. [00:25:12] Speaker A: I mean like on, on a few things. Like, you know, as someone that doesn't have any machine guns, you know, I don't need a machine gun, but if I had enough money, I would want a machine gun to take it out to the range and go, you know, ape wild with it. I'd love. [00:25:36] Speaker B: So I see where you are coming from. I would like that. If we're just talking person to person and whatnot and everything was a personal thing, then yeah, like it would be cool. But there's too many crazies out there that if you give, get. If they got a hold of a machine gun, it would not be good. [00:26:01] Speaker A: Yeah, but you know, I'd rather them have a machine gun than be trained, you know, with a rifle, even like a bolt action rifle. Just like bang, bang, bang, bang. Because you can sit in a clock tower and start picking people the off. That's already been proven. [00:26:19] Speaker B: So you rather everyone be trained? [00:26:22] Speaker A: No, I, I feel like, you know, if you want to own a gun and have no training, sure, go for it. You know, like every gun in my entire safe, I know how to, you know, field strip, you know, and take apart, replace any parts that are needed, you know, do everything. [00:26:44] Speaker B: And so wait, should everyone know how to do that? [00:26:48] Speaker A: I mean, you should. Like, if you, if you go out and like buy a car, should you know how to change the tire? [00:26:55] Speaker B: Yes. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah. So, you know, if you buy a gun, you should know how. But is it required, you know, learning? No. [00:27:06] Speaker B: You don't think it should be? [00:27:08] Speaker A: I mean, like it is a good idea is what I'm saying. [00:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, you're. I hear you say it. It's a good idea. I'm definitively trying to get an answer. Do you think it should be required. [00:27:20] Speaker A: No, absolutely not. No, you shouldn't be forced to fucking learn anything you don't want to learn. I feel like if you want to go buy a gun and be a dumb shit and pay somebody else to fucking go bore sight your rifle or, you know, go do anything that you don't want to go do, yeah, that. That sucks. But, you know, you can pay other people to do it. Like, I bought a house and, you know, it's like, I know how to, you know, unplug my toilet if I take too big of a shit, but, you know, I can also pay somebody else to come over and unplug it for me. [00:27:56] Speaker B: All right. [00:27:57] Speaker A: Anyways, you know, like, you. You can pay anyone to do anything if you don't want to learn how to do it. You know, it's like, hey, you know, my time on my oven is wrong. You can pay someone to come over and, you know, fix that for you. [00:28:15] Speaker B: That's fair. Going back to the judge. [00:28:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:19] Speaker B: And the legal thing, from my cursory glance at what I've looked at, which is only two articles, one CNN talking about how he was a legal immigrant, he was already, like, kicked out or something. Then he came back illegally or some stuff, something stupid like that, and the judge hit him. All right, hot take on a couple of things with this one little story. Hot take one. I don't believe in ice. Hot take two, though. If you're already kicked out of the country, the judge should not be, like, hiding you from deportation. Now, I do think, like, it also depends on what you got in trouble for. His was a crime, like, from what I gather, some sort of assault or something. But, like, if it's just paperwork of I don't have my legal papers, that is something different. And so that, again, weird. Hot take on that. Now, the person, the people who are innocent and deported and the Supreme Court who don't even agree with each other, but it. It's Republican leaning. They unanimously said that he should come back and have due process. I think, again, that shows that. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Eduardo Flores Ruiz is charged with three counts of battery and domestic abuse. [00:30:08] Speaker B: That's what I said. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Right. [00:30:10] Speaker B: I agreed with all. Yeah. [00:30:14] Speaker A: But his arrest was prompted and by a violation of Immigration and the Nationality act and unlawful re. Entry into the United States. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I said. That he. [00:30:24] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, but you said you disagree with ice. [00:30:28] Speaker B: I do disagree with ice. I think ICE is a terrible, corrupt corporation that should. [00:30:34] Speaker A: Not a corporation. It's a government agency. [00:30:37] Speaker B: Sorry, government agency. Same thing. They're Just sanctioned by the government. Instead of being a corporation, they follow the government. Same fucking difference. Even. Almost. Almost to a T. Same built structure too. So anyways, yeah, I think ICE is. ICE should be abolished. I agree. But again, everything I've said that you've read. [00:31:05] Speaker A: So would you allow, you know, cartel gang leaders and Ms. 13 gang leaders from, you know, South America to come up here and live in America, you know, just free willy nilly and you know, get whatever. [00:31:23] Speaker B: All right, so this is where it's nuance and other things come into play. So at the top of this, you said that we're going to talk open borders. [00:31:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:35] Speaker B: So this blends into open borders. I believe that we should have open borders. But to extent which again, this is where nuance comes in and stuff because I believe every country should have sovereignty over what's called their rules, laws and stuff. Right. But we all are people of the world and we all should be able to migrate and go interchangeably wherever we want. Now if you do something against said country. Well, here's the issue too. I don't, if I don't think country laws, country laws are different and hard in comparison to like world laws. There should be some sort of like basic humanity rights of humanity that every country has to follow. And if you break one of those like rules and stuff like that, then you should never be allowed back in that country. But like the reason why I say also it gets nuanced with even saying something like that is, is like countries that, what's it called, being gay is illegal. That's where I, I say that it should be a humanitarian thing because I don't think you should be kicked out of a country because you're gay. [00:32:51] Speaker A: So I mean, if you're gay, don't go to that country. Don't go to the UAE if you're gay. And guess what? You know, just like, oh, I'm damned, this is my bucket list. Just. [00:33:00] Speaker B: But if you're born there, then you can't just go with. That's why I want open borders. Because say you're born there. [00:33:06] Speaker A: So if you are persecuted for being gay, go ahead. If you're persecuted for being gay and your country wants to kill you, you know, you can seek asylum in another country that is more friendly to say, you know, you being gay. You know, there are countries in between America and the UAE and other countries that say being gay is illegal. You know, go to one of those and be like, okay, cool, I can live here, you know, and be gay and be who I am. You know, yeah, you can come to America if you. If you have the plain money and you want to come to America and seek asylum here and gain residency here and do everything you need to do. Thumbs up. Hell, yeah. I like it when people come to America because America is awesome and, you know, go through everything they need to go through. Go through the green card and, you know, get their citizenship the legal way, you know, Hell, yeah. I've met people that have done that. They're great people that think America is awesome as well. But, you know, to say, hey, you know, my cousin is, you know, looking at a murder charge over here in some, you know, third world country. I'm gonna fly to America because it doesn't have borders now, and just come live in America and avoid all the, you know, bullshit and all the, you know, stuff I had back home then. Yeah. Like, if, you know, the world didn't have borders, I would just, you know, rack up, you know, as much credit card debt as I possibly could, sell it all for cash, and then just go to another country where it's fucking cheaper to live, and then just be like, okay, I'm gonna live here now. You know? And guess what? America can't come after me because I did that shit in America. You know, that's old shit. You know, like, if I was to go to Japan and overstay my welcome in Japan, they would kick me out and be like, hey, you can't come back to Japan ever again. I would get deported. That's with any country. As an American, you know, you go to Croatia, you know, overstay your welcome, go to Russia, overstay your visa, you know, you're kicked the fuck out. Now, Edward Edwin Snowden got let in because America wanted to, you know, fuck him up because, you know, he blew their cover. And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's. That's fine. You know, go ahead and let Edward Snow live there. They can't go anywhere. Now he's kind of. And he doesn't get to, you know, live a nice life. He just, you know, gets the bare minimum. It starts to work. And you know, pretty much all, like, a bunch of his money, you know, came from donations. People are like, oh, thank you for blowing the whistle, you know, on. On the government spying on us. But it's. We already knew, so. [00:36:08] Speaker B: All right, so in your monologue, you talked about how. What's it called if you do it the legal way and stuff. All good, right? [00:36:18] Speaker A: Yes. [00:36:19] Speaker B: So let's talk about two legal people who the right and Left are fighting over right now. The dude who got deported that we. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Talked about, the Maryland man that was a terrorist from MS.13 which has been, you know, designated as a terrorist organization. He got sent to El Salvador in El Salvadorian prison. Why would he still be in that prison in El Salvador if he was an American citizen? He was a citizen of El Salvador that got thrown in that prison and El Salvador is now holding him because El Salvador knows that he was an Ms. 13, you know, gang member. [00:37:02] Speaker B: So without due process it wasn't proven he was. [00:37:06] Speaker A: You don't get due process if you're not an American citizen. [00:37:11] Speaker B: You do get due process. Yes, yes you do. You. [00:37:17] Speaker A: You don't it it. Do you get due process if you're an illegal immigrant? [00:37:27] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:37:29] Speaker A: Okay, so it so because anyone on. [00:37:32] Speaker B: The US soil that's what it was talked about in the constitution. [00:37:37] Speaker A: But if you're a terrorist, let's see. Do terrorists get right to due process? Persons charged with criminal offenses, including terrorism related crime crimes are entitled to unusual series of specific due process rights. [00:37:56] Speaker B: But oh yes they are. [00:37:58] Speaker A: So should we have taken Saddam Hussein and given him due process? Should we take an Osama bin Laden? He didn't get no due process. Why did we just shoot him in his bed? [00:38:10] Speaker B: We're eventual people who murdered a person in his bed. Sevez, he's a vengeful person who committed an act of terrorism that murdered thousands. So yeah, like it doesn't change. [00:38:21] Speaker A: Yeah, so we should. [00:38:22] Speaker B: My statement doesn't change. [00:38:24] Speaker A: We should get rid of these fucking like like this is what is in. [00:38:28] Speaker B: You can get rid of them legally. We don't live in harbor barbarism time of like well eye for an eye anymore. Like we're over. [00:38:38] Speaker A: Yeah, he got arrested, you know, got all his paperwork. It it didn't. Wasn't like a you know, hood over his head and you're on a plane. He got arrested and got his due process. The due process got done quickly. You know, thank God that the, you know, President of the United States has actually put a fire under the butts of the people that are, you know, prosecuting these criminals and these fucking terrorists. [00:39:03] Speaker B: What court has he sped to? He's just fucking put people on the plane and kidnapped him and sent him away. [00:39:12] Speaker A: Then why, why hasn't El Salvador deported this man that is in their country now illegally if he's not a resident of El Salvador, you know, you. What happens if I overstay my welcome in El Salvador? Overstaying your visa in El Salvador can result in a Fine. Before you're allowed to leave the country. Depending on the circumstances, you may also face restrictions on future entries or even deportation results from the US Embassy in El Salvador. [00:39:48] Speaker B: Right, but you're not. You are saying it like he went to El Salvador. [00:39:53] Speaker A: He's like, oh, the Maryland man having a drink with a Senate Kilmar or Brega Garcia. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Let's. [00:40:04] Speaker A: Let's. You know. [00:40:07] Speaker B: All right, please let me finish what I'm saying. And oh, also real quick. [00:40:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:15] Speaker B: With the mistakenly deported, the government has admitted that it was a mistake. Clerical error. So. [00:40:21] Speaker A: Yeah, but he was still a terrorist. [00:40:23] Speaker B: He was not a terrorist. He was. You can't. Just because somebody disagrees with you, you can't be labeled a terrorist until you do either a terroristic acts or. [00:40:35] Speaker A: So if. Okay, if we want to bring him back and he is proven to be a terrorist, he gets sent to Gitmo. [00:40:43] Speaker B: Gitmo is illegal as well. We shouldn't have Gitmo. We shouldn't have any military institution that we hold people off of US Soil. The reason why we do do that is so they aren't subject to US Laws and US Rights. And again, that is why I say it's wrong. But going back to him and going back to the other guy and then. [00:41:08] Speaker A: Here is a fucking senator who also fucking broke federal fucking laws to go have a fucking drink with this tortured poor man in El Salvador. [00:41:21] Speaker B: I don't understand what's wrong with that. [00:41:24] Speaker A: The fact that he went to another country. What is. There's like a fucking. A law where fucking senators and shit like that cannot go to other countries to fucking dictate shit like this. [00:41:38] Speaker B: He didn't dictate anything. He went and talked to the guy. [00:41:40] Speaker A: Yeah, he was demanding for him to get released and trying to come up with compromise. [00:41:46] Speaker B: Yeah, he was fighting for his release. He wasn't demanding. [00:41:52] Speaker A: Let's see. It was Chris Van Hollen. Let's see. [00:42:02] Speaker B: Oh, what does it say in his bio? That he's an attorney, so I'm pretty sure he knows the loss. [00:42:14] Speaker A: But he's been advocating for his release to do the due process. You know, he. [00:42:21] Speaker B: So he was. [00:42:21] Speaker A: The Logan act, which prohibits unauthorized foreign negotiations because of his trip to advocate for Garcia. So, yeah, he broke the Logan Act. [00:42:36] Speaker B: Is it? [00:42:37] Speaker A: The Logan act is a U. S. Federal law prohibit prohibiting private individuals from engaging in unauthorized diplomacy with foreign governments due to influencer actions to defeat a US policy. It's been in effect since 1799 and was passed in response to unauthorized negotiations between a private citizen. George Logan and the French government, while rarely enforced, it's has potential legal tool to prevent citizens from undermining the government's foreign policy. [00:43:10] Speaker B: Right, so with your statement of U. S. Foreign policy up there, huh? What u. S. Foreign policy did that senator violate? [00:43:20] Speaker A: He wanted to take this guy back and. [00:43:24] Speaker B: Wait, wait, with that? He just wanted to take him back. [00:43:26] Speaker A: Right now, defeat US Politics. [00:43:29] Speaker B: Wait, wait. He wanted to take him back right now? Look up. What's it called that guy mistakenly sent. Because if he's mistakenly said that the government acknowledged you as a mistake, then. [00:43:45] Speaker A: He should be on a plane. [00:43:46] Speaker B: Wait, wait. Then it is not going against foreign policy. Now, what it is said, even though the government has admitted that is a mistake, is. Well, it. He's in El Salvador, there's nothing I could do. And then the El Salvadorian president who has, what's it called, contracts with the US to put people in those prisons, it was like, well, I'm not going to send him back. And again, Trump isn't saying, hey, keep him there. He isn't also saying, hey, send him back. He just said it was a mistake. So there is not going against. [00:44:29] Speaker A: There was a. There was. It's like, you know when you get a speeding ticket and they, like, misspell your name a tiny bit? That was the mistake. It was just a clerical error. Everything was still legitimate. And he got sent away. Like, you know, would you allow this MS.13 gang member to live in your fucking apartment? [00:44:52] Speaker B: First, he is not an MS.13 gang member. So, yes, I would allow this asylum seeker to live in my apartment. There we go. [00:45:02] Speaker A: He wasn't an asylum seeker. He was in the country illegally. [00:45:05] Speaker B: He was not in the country illegally, but he had a special asylum thing where he wasn't supposed to ever get deported back to El Salvador, if you want. If we're following the laws and why he was here. [00:45:21] Speaker A: But, you know, yeah, he. This guy, you know, suffering right now, dude, like, look at him. Oh, man, he. He's, you know, just. Yeah, you know, like, I. I can't wait for, like, everything to come out and then, like, all the lefties back. Okay, yeah, he was a terrorist. [00:45:42] Speaker B: And you know how we would get to that point, though? Through due process. [00:45:48] Speaker A: He got his due process. [00:45:49] Speaker B: He did not get due process. [00:45:52] Speaker A: How long do you want the due process to be? Do you want him to go into a courtroom in front of a judge and be like, you know, yeah, you're here illegally, you know, and then has to go sit in a jail cell and then he has to come back and be like, okay, well, you know, just because, you know, the due process for U.S. citizens is a bit longer does not mean that his due process should, you know, take, you know, 10 years. They. [00:46:17] Speaker B: They don't separate the amount of time of due process of. If you're a citizen, if you're legal immigrant, illegal immigrant. There is no separation of time of due process. Second, we can't debate or be upset with our court systems taking a long time when. When we don't even fix our own court systems for the US Citizen. The court systems need to be reaffirmed. I should be abolished. There's all these other steps. And then going back to what I've been trying to say with you talking about legally doing stuff, this guy legally did stuff and was deported illegally. Same as Muhammad Khalid was illegally deported because of his views on Palestine when he was legally here and followed everything legally. Just once you are. Because you're here in America. And whether you're immigrant, Whether you're a U.S. citizen, whether you're a green card holder, the freedom of speech is absolute here, isn't it? [00:47:25] Speaker A: If you're not, okay, imagine you go into, like, a Costco, okay? And you walk in, you're not a member of Costco. You know, that's fine, but you're like, I'm going to walk into this Costco right now, and I'm going to buy stuff. I have cash. This is a store in the United States of America. I should be able to buy whatever the fuck I want in this Costco. And you, you know, go around filling up your cart, and then you get up to the front and like, sir, you're not a member of Costco. You can't fucking shop here. I have money. I have rights. This is America. This is a store in America. We should be able to shop here. Like, well, you. You can go over there and, you know, pay for a membership and then buy all this stuff. Sure. Well, I don't want to do all that. I don't want to become a member. I just want to, you know, get all the benefits. That's what these people are doing. They're trying to get the benefits of living here without becoming a member of the United States of America. [00:48:23] Speaker B: Both examples I gave was going through the court systems and everything legally to become part of the member of the United States. [00:48:38] Speaker A: All right, what is the evidence for the alleged MS.13 links? Mr. Garcia has been acknowledged entering the US illegally in 2012, according to court documents. Let's go ahead and, you know, click on these court documents. You know, oh, look, it shows, you know, all his court documents. And this is just a, you know, this is a lot of court documents. Holy encloses all this. It's a bunch of, you know, X'd out that way, you know, you can't see all the, you know, nonsense. But you know, the board reviews immigration and fans the judge's actual findings clear. [00:49:20] Speaker B: Now which they did not do for that one lady who her husband got deported again. This person or. Yeah. Was it. No, it was a different one who got deported because he allegedly was part of Ms. Or gang too. But he got. [00:49:37] Speaker A: But here, here, here's the evidence. In March 2019, he was detained along with three other people in Hyattville, Maryland in the car park of a Home Depot. Officers, you know, probably, you know, racially profiled them thinking they were looking for work. Officers in the Prince George county police department said that the men were loitering and subsequently identified Mr. Garcia and the two other members of Ms. 13 in a document titled gang field interview sheet local police detailed their observations. They said Mr. Garcia was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes and mouth of the presence of several denominations which is like Ms. 13 officer claim that the clothing was indicative of Hispanic gang culture. Okay, I can, you know, be like no, not really. [00:50:36] Speaker B: Okay, thank you for acknowledging that. [00:50:40] Speaker A: And that wearing a Chicago Bulls hat represents that they are a member of good standing in the MS.13. [00:50:46] Speaker B: Which again no, but continue. [00:50:49] Speaker A: I mean anyone can buy a Chicago Bulls hat. [00:50:51] Speaker B: Correct. [00:50:52] Speaker A: But you know, if you're gonna like posture like you're a. [00:50:55] Speaker B: How it doesn't say anything about imposter. [00:50:58] Speaker A: But Stephen, the deadliest journalist has been years studying the MS.13 gang said that it is true at some point the Chicago Bulls logo with the horns became a sort of stand in for the MS.13's devil horn symbol. But by wearing the logo of a hugely bass hugely popular basketball team and it's not exclusive to the gang. He says it right there. Any assertions about gang affiliation would need to be corroborated with testimony, criminal history and corroborating evidence. According to the field interview. And I'm reading all of this live too. They were also provided a proven and reliable source that Mr. Garcia was an active member of the MS.13's Western Click with the rank of Chesko. I don't know. However, Mr. Dudley said a Tesco is not a rank but instead a user instead used to refer to recruits who are yet to be initiated. So in the gang, lawyers for Mr. Garcia's argued in court filings at Western Click is based on New York where they said their client has never lived, doesn't matter. And according to government documents, he is dismant dismissed the information given to the police against him as hearsay. According to the lawyers, Mr. Garcia has never been convicted of any criminal offense, including gang membership. You can't be convicted of gang membership in the US or in El Salvador. He lived in the US for 14 years, had three children, worked in construction. But the judge who presided over his 2019 case said based on confidential information, there is sufficient evidence support Mr. Garcia's gang membership. That finding was later upheld by another judge. As a result, Mr. Garcia was refused bail and remained in custody due to his due process by these two judges. In October 2019, he was granted a withholding of removal order to show a difference status from asylum. [00:53:15] Speaker B: But. [00:53:16] Speaker A: But which prevented the US government from sending him back to El Boom El Salvador because he could face harm. [00:53:22] Speaker B: Which again that was my base. [00:53:25] Speaker A: But wait, wait, wait. [00:53:26] Speaker B: You could continue reading. But that was my base argument when you said four. Following the laws. He is following the laws with all this. Correct so far with going to court. [00:53:35] Speaker A: He was granted, you know, he didn't apply for it. The Mr. Garcia's lawyer said he was granted the state status on his well founded fear of persecution by Barrio 18, the main rival of the gang Ms. 13. So he's afraid of another gang that he. He's not a part of. So if you're not a part of Ms. 13, why should you be afraid of their rivals? You know, if you're not a part of the Crips, why should you be afraid of the blood? [00:54:08] Speaker B: Because you live in a neighborhood like legit. That's a straight up honest answer. If I live in the. If I lived on a block with that was controlled by a gang, I would be afraid of the other gang as well, right? Doesn't that just lead to Stan? [00:54:29] Speaker A: But he said prior to entering the U.S. his family and their business had been threatened by extortion by Barrio 18. Since 2019, he was released with the protective order. You should have came over here seeking asylum. You should have came over here doing it legally, not joining in other fucking gangs. Since 2019, it was released with protective order. Mr. Garcia's lawyer said he has had yearly check ins with immigration officials which have been attended without fail and without incident. [00:54:59] Speaker B: Still following the law and everything, right? [00:55:01] Speaker A: Still should have came in here seeking asylum, not fucking just coming in here willy nilly. You, you had plenty of time. You had from 2012. It is now 2025. You could have gotten residency and been here legally in the United States of America, you know, since 2012. Easily. [00:55:21] Speaker B: The court order was legal for him to stay here and not get deported back to el Salvador. [00:55:31] Speaker A: In 2021, his wife, Jennifer Vasquez Wara filed a protective order petition against him, allegedly that he had physically attacked her on multiple occasions. Ms. Vasquez had in a statement on 16 April that she decided not to follow through the court process at the time because they're going to work through the situation privately as a family, including going to cancel probably because she was going to get killed by the MS.13. [00:56:03] Speaker B: So aren't you making conjecture points here with that, say, trying to make. Because there's nothing for a fact stating any of that, right? So you are just making up an opinion statement right there. Not a factual statement with any. [00:56:19] Speaker A: But, but you know, a well educated guess based on what I know of Ms. 13. [00:56:28] Speaker B: But he hasn't been proven that he was a gang member of MS.13. [00:56:34] Speaker A: They have, they have confidential information that they cannot release to the public because it would release who is their inside guy in Ms. 13. Probably, you know, you know, an informant on the inside of MS.13, an undercover, you know, a CI if you will, that has given them legitimized, you know, information about this dude. And it's like if you. If literally 10 years ago I wanted to go to Istan or I wanted to go to Europe for a month and I did. But guess what, you know, when I applied for my passport, I had the FBI come in person to interrogate me as to see why I was going over there. They asked me point blank, are you going to go over there to join isis? I said no. And a bunch of other racist stuff about, you know, sand people. And they're like, okay, cool, you know. But if I was like, yeah, I'm gonna go over there and join isis, they'd have arrested me and probably, you know, made me disappear as they should have. [00:57:48] Speaker B: So just, just want to point out you said that you can't get arrested for be part of a gang or gang affiliate. But then you literally just said I'm going to go ahead and get or be arrested if I said yes to ISIS. Which again, you said, Ms. 13 is a terrorist organization. [00:58:10] Speaker A: You can't be arrested for being a part of a gang. You can be arrested for being a part of a terrorist. [00:58:16] Speaker B: No, no, no. I'm just saying words are important because in this one conversation you've stated multiple times that Ms. 13 was a terrorist organization. [00:58:24] Speaker A: Terrorist organization. [00:58:25] Speaker B: And then you appear when you read it, you it by verbatim. In the BBC article, it said gang affiliated. And I understand that you. Would you look it up? [00:58:38] Speaker A: I'm looking up Ms. 13 crimes. You know what, what have they been known to do? [00:58:45] Speaker B: They've been known to do everything. Same as any other, bro, Bro. So what is this going to prove? [00:58:56] Speaker A: That they. They are terrorists? [00:58:58] Speaker B: So would you call the Italian mob. [00:59:00] Speaker A: Terrorists if they were in the United States? Yeah. And guess what happened to them. The mob family is no longer. Because guess what? The US Government came out after them with everything they had. Boom. Smackdown, boom. Destroyed. But at least the Italian mob is polite. You know, if you show them respect, they'll show you some respect back. [00:59:33] Speaker B: So you're okay with mob rule if they're polite? [00:59:37] Speaker A: I'm okay with, you know, people, you know, doing crimes as long as it's doesn't, you know, hurt other people. If you just want to deal drugs, sure, whatever. But if you want to go out and murder people, assault people, kidnap people and extort them and do some, you know, drug trafficking, human smuggling and trafficking, weapons trafficking, robbery and theft, and prostitution. Yeah, let's get you the fuck on out of here. [01:00:11] Speaker B: What's wrong with prostitution? [01:00:15] Speaker A: Well, when you pimp out girls, I. [01:00:18] Speaker B: Just wanted to make sure because again. [01:00:22] Speaker A: Like, if you were a woman and, you know, you want to, you know, you know, have your pay to play, sure. Whatever you do you girl, I don't care. But if you are a dude that has control over a woman that you have smuggled into the country and you're like, hey, go over here and have sex with this guy or I'm gonna kill you. And then you're gonna give me all the fucking money that you got from it, and I'm gonna give you like a nail job or something like that. [01:00:54] Speaker B: I don't think most girls in the US that are prostitutes are from a different country, smuggled in. [01:01:02] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a lot of ones that are from here, you know, and, you know, if you're doing it on your own for sure, you know, go ahead and, you know, do what you want. It's a dangerous world and you're probably going to end up dead. Especially, you know, after you like a dude and, like, ask for his money and then, you know, he starts calling you incessantly and then you stop picking up the phone. Yeah, dudes get weird about that kind of. But yeah, like, let's see, like, yeah, Ms. 13, you know, crimes, crimes, crimes. [01:01:39] Speaker B: And you know, most countries that have high crime rates with guns and stuff are using American guns, right? You know, they get it from us, we, we export the most amount of guns and crime. [01:01:52] Speaker A: Yeah, they pay for it legally. They, they have people, I, I have guns in my gun safe that are from Italy. I have guns in my gun safe that are from Turkey. I have guns from all over the world, you know, that we brought in, that we imported legally. And just because other countries import an AR15 or, you know, any other type of, you know, weapon that, you know, gets made here and the crime happens with that weapon, you know, is that our fault? No, because their people bought it legally. The people that they have said these people can have guns. And then those people that they're like, okay, they're good to have guns, did some crimes and went out and spread the guns around. You know, most, not everyone's a Nicholas Cage in a plane. [01:02:49] Speaker B: I'm not even talking about that, bro. Like, most people in our, the global south, they come to America or they get Americans to buy them guns and they export those guns that were, again, not like technically they're bought legally, but. [01:03:11] Speaker A: So if someone comes here from the south and it's like, hey, Tron, can you go buy me a gun? You go buy them a gun and then they go commit a crime with it and then they recover that gun, the serial number is going to come up and it's going to come back to you. And then you're going to have some, you know, angry ATF agents asking you some very uncomfortable questions. Hey, where is this gun? Where is the sale of the transaction? Oh, guess what? You fucking. You know when that's. [01:03:36] Speaker B: If those countries have working relations with. [01:03:39] Speaker A: The U.S. mexico does. [01:03:42] Speaker B: Mexico does, you're right. [01:03:44] Speaker A: But it, I mean, getting on a plane with a gun is a very fucking difficult thing. Especially if you're gonna go to another country because you're breaking some very big laws if you do that. And that is not, you know, something that anyone here wants to fuck with. It's like, oh, yeah, guess what? I'm gonna fucking, you know, get charged with like a hundred thousand dollar fine or whatever the fuck it is. It's an insane fine and years in prison. So, yeah, if you do the, you know, like war dogs, I'm gonna, you know, send guns and gun run and you get caught. Yeah, you're like, let me see. Sending weapons overseas. Char. Undocumented Chinese immigrant charged with shipping guns. Oh, wow. Yeah. Itar is the one I'm looking for. Stands for international traffics and arms regulations. But yes, brokering, technical, you know, defensive services, anything like that. There's a whole lot of, let's see, violations, fines, $500,000 to 1.2 million per violation. So if you want to go ahead and around and find out and you know, send a gun overseas, send a gun to Australia or whatever, you know, go ahead. But you know, if you get caught and if that shit comes back to you. Half a million, you know, civil penalties. Yep. And criminal penalties can find a million. And imprisonment up to 20 years. So that, that is something I would never with. [01:05:55] Speaker B: Yeah, but people commit murder all the time and the cry, the penalties are stacked as well. They, I wouldn't with it, but other people would. [01:06:05] Speaker A: And then they go to prison. Like they just disappear forever. And I'm like that, that's what should happen. You know, people don't like when the, you know, the big dick of the government comes down on, you know, their people. And you know, right now the Democrats are freaking out because the Republicans are taking away their paydays and like, oh no, this is all bad. We need to have, you know, illegal immigrants in this country. Because especially here in Colorado, there is nothing to say an illegal immigrant can't vote here. There's nothing to say that someone not from the state can't vote here. [01:06:49] Speaker B: I, no, you're wrong. [01:06:51] Speaker A: The Dominion machines got hacked. [01:06:57] Speaker B: The Dominion machines did not get hacked. [01:07:00] Speaker A: What are you talking Colorado dominion machines hacked investigation, you know, continues into how Colorado voting machines passwords ended up online. So no, they didn't get hacked. Just some dumb decided to release them online and then people went through and up the entire voting thing. [01:07:25] Speaker B: If people went through and up the entire voting thing, how come there's any Republicans that won in Colorado if that's literally the case? [01:07:34] Speaker A: Because that would be a dead ringer. But yeah, Jenna Griswold should be in prison. This is the lady right here, Jenna Griswold, you know, and she should be in prison because she's, you know, and she's a candidate for the Attorney General of Colorado. I, I, I hate this lady. [01:08:03] Speaker B: So let me ask you an honest question. Is there one Democrat you could say you like? [01:08:10] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. [01:08:14] Speaker B: I'm waiting. [01:08:16] Speaker A: Fucking Obama. He got rid of so many fucking people out of this country. My deporter in chief fucking dropped missiles on Egypt. Hell yeah. [01:08:27] Speaker B: So you legitly like Obama? Like this is no bullshit. I mean do you do, is there a Democrat you like at least as much as you like the average Republican? [01:08:42] Speaker A: Oh, no, absolutely not. Like, you know, a lot of these Democrats are all. [01:08:46] Speaker B: So all Democrats are bad then? [01:08:48] Speaker A: Not all Democrats are bad, like, but. [01:08:51] Speaker B: No, but no one did. No one meets the average Republican. That's what you're saying. [01:08:57] Speaker A: I'm saying the Democrats that actually have the power to do something, there is low level Democrats. Like, okay, yeah, you're fine. You, you're fine. I have Democratic friends. They're fine. They don't have power to do anything. [01:09:09] Speaker B: I don't, I wouldn't. I don't want to be associated with Democrats. [01:09:12] Speaker A: What are you, a libertarian centralist? [01:09:15] Speaker B: No. Can I just be my own? [01:09:18] Speaker A: No, you have to be in a party. [01:09:19] Speaker B: No, why do I have to. [01:09:21] Speaker A: It's like prison, dude. Like, you fucking come in, you be a part of a gang or you get killed. Welcome. Choose a gang right now you want to be part of the fucking Republicans. We love guns and pussy, you know. Yeah, we're kind of fucking harsh on some things that you might like, but you know, guns and pussy and like everyone else is like, yeah, let's, you know, be nice to fucking terrorists that enter our country illegally after they're told that they can't come back. [01:09:57] Speaker B: What terrorists were we nice to that came to our country illegally and we told them not to go back. [01:10:04] Speaker A: The Ms. 13 people is not an Ms. 13%. [01:10:08] Speaker B: We have. There's. [01:10:13] Speaker A: I'm like, even if you're like, I want to be a part of the MS.13. He was a, you know, kid born in 95, he was 30 years old. You know, now him send him away and obviously he's not doing too terrible. [01:10:30] Speaker B: Because there's still pictures of him being looking. Okay, yeah, of course you need more litter immediacy. [01:10:44] Speaker A: I mean, okay, here, here's really what it is. Believe you know, nothing you hear and only half of what you see. [01:10:52] Speaker B: But you don't do that for your own party. Like it would be different, it would honestly be different if you held the Republicans to the same standards you hold Democrats to. [01:11:05] Speaker A: I mean the Democrats want Trump hung. They want him to be dead. We have never come out. [01:11:11] Speaker B: Time out. How. Whoa. Go ahead, finish your statement first. You've never said. We have never said. Continue. I want to hear the end of this. I'm sorry for interrupting. Go. [01:11:21] Speaker A: Like there has never been like a huge public outcry for like, like maybe like Obama. [01:11:27] Speaker B: Yeah, that's exactly what I was going. [01:11:29] Speaker A: To bring up from like the racists, from the people that hate every black people from, from like the fucking uncle Ruckuses, you know. In white skin. They're like, hang them. Hang that neighbor right now. I got the rope here, huh? But, you know, from the majority of fucking Republicans, like, you know, what do we do? We're like, I don't think I'm going to drink Bud Light anymore, you know, because Dylan Mulvaney is on the fucking can. So we're going to. We're going to stop drinking it. Fucking leftists are like, we're going to burn down fucking Tesla dealerships and destroy people's personal property. [01:12:12] Speaker B: The right has accused so many CIS women in bathrooms of being Nazis. Women in bathrooms. So many. Who? What do you mean, who? Give me no one. Why don't you just look it up since you're so. [01:12:31] Speaker A: Okay, let's see. Republicans blaming CIS women in bathrooms for not being CIS women. Some Republican lawmakers have introduced and supported legislation and policies that aim to restrict. [01:12:51] Speaker B: Bathrooms were the examples of. [01:12:54] Speaker A: You heard what I said? I. I said what I said into the mic. Republicans blaming CIS women in bathrooms for not being CIS women. You know, example. But, but it's all trans stuff. No link between trans inclusive bathroom policies, you know, oh, look, NBC. Like that. That's your stuff, right? You know, continue without supporting this site. I'm not supporting you guys. There's no evidence that letting transgender people in public restrooms align with their genders increase the safety risks. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I mean, like, I don't care, you know, if whoever the fuck comes into the restroom. I like how you're like, I have to fucking, like, now look it up on my left phone, on my Apple. I can't afford that on my Snapple. But I mean, like, honestly, it's like, you know, doesn't matter. I'm like, I don't. I don't think Trump is coming after, you know, any of the trans stuff. He's busy dealing with Russia and Ukraine and the Pope and all that and trying to get, you know, our gun, like, rights back. And then, like, that's like, literally, if they would take, like, five steps back from, you know, gun restrictions, we would let the Democrats do whatever the fuck they wanted to do. [01:14:27] Speaker B: No, you wouldn't. [01:14:28] Speaker A: Yes. [01:14:28] Speaker B: No, you wouldn't. [01:14:29] Speaker A: If we're allowed to have our gun rights and you do not touch our gun rights and, you know, do not touch, like, parental rights. Go ahead and do whatever the you want to do. We don't care. [01:14:41] Speaker B: What is, I mean, parental rights. [01:14:44] Speaker A: The. The love law that just came in, Kelly. Love law? [01:14:56] Speaker B: No, I don't even know who love lace is. [01:15:00] Speaker A: I don't either. Or the Kelly Loving act is what it is, but it would named after the club Q mask shooting victim would add misgendering and dead naming to Colorado's anti discrimination law and divorce custody settlement considerations. So pretty much it would take, you know, art, like I, I understand, you know, being mean to your kid. And Beck, you're not a girl or anything like that. And it's like, or you're not a boy or I'm gonna name you, you know, John and I'm gonna call you John. It's like, like I, I truly feel bad for like the transgender community because. Yeah, you have to go through some shit. [01:16:04] Speaker B: All right, real quick, hot take on this. [01:16:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:06] Speaker B: If we are just using just this dead naming as the whole choice for custody battle and whatnot. I disagree with the law, but if we're using this to establish like patterns of behavior such as abuse and whatnot. So say John is goes by Kelly now, right. And you are be this child, what's it called custody battle is because mom believes child is safer with her because you are abusive. Now if they just are only use the example, well, he won't quit calling them John. That is wrong. But if they're using as in like, well, he beats them, he starves them from food, you know, examples like that. And they also do this, that, that I agree with. And again, it's just showing like more proof of pattern of abuse. [01:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, if you abuse your child, sure. But, but you know, hey, this is, you know, if, you know, you're getting like a bitter divorce from your wife and like, you know, your, your now daughter comes in the room, hey, John, I'm sorry, you know, Samantha or whatever the fuck name it is, you know. [01:17:37] Speaker B: And like, first of all, really quickly, I don't like you said its name, but continue. I just wanted to point that out because I was just a natural voice language. I know you as a person don't feel that way, but I just had to point that out. [01:17:53] Speaker A: I, I am in a character here, but you understand, I, I, I do characters, but you know, it's like, oh, and then your, you know, soon to be ex wife is in the next room's like, you know, I got him now. And they go to the lawyer and they, you know, she gets 100% custody. And it's like, yeah, she dead named or he dead named, you know, our daughter. It's like, did you just assume my gender? Oh my gosh. And she just dead named me. It's like, did you Just assume my gender is like, turns into a whole fucking thing. And then it's like, they, them over there. That person. Yeah. And like, I, I, I feel like people, you know, that are transgender already go through enough and trying to force it all, you know, by law, you know, it's kind of up. [01:19:07] Speaker B: Well, then, okay. Also. [01:19:09] Speaker A: But if you do, you know, mentally abuse your child. Yes. There are ways to get, you know, the custody already taken away from that, you know, guardian figure. You can leave them back. They abuse, you know, our daughter or whatever, and boom, taken care of. And, you know, really quick, Lorena Garcia, the representative that, you know, is a prime sponsor on this bill. Like, I was doing a testimony the other day on, on another bill, 13, 14, and I was wearing my shirt that says, I love one woman and a bunch of guns. I was like on camera, she's like, I'm interested on your shirt. What does it say? And I like, stand up and back. It says, I love one woman and a bunch of guns. She's like, cool, cool. Thanks, bro. And I, I have this recording. [01:20:03] Speaker B: It's hilarious. [01:20:05] Speaker A: She, she was, like, offended. I'm like. And everyone else was watching was, you know, dying about it. But yeah, she, she's. [01:20:15] Speaker B: I wish there was. You could ask her why she was offended by it. I want to know her reasoning, because again, I, I just want to know. [01:20:26] Speaker A: Go ask her. She's at the Capitol. She's a representative. She's a Democrat. She's not going to talk to me, but she'd love to talk to you. [01:20:35] Speaker B: I don't think she. No one wants to talk to me. [01:20:39] Speaker A: Get involved into politics. My guy, like, it is crazy, like, Colorado American Indian Recognition Day concerning the establishment of a Colorado American Indian Residential Recognition Day as an observed state holiday. [01:20:57] Speaker B: Sure, we shall have more holidays. [01:21:01] Speaker A: But, you know, these are all the laws that she's a part of. And you can go like that. [01:21:07] Speaker B: Surveillance one or whatever. [01:21:09] Speaker A: What? [01:21:11] Speaker B: I don't know where I see that. [01:21:14] Speaker A: Oh, the one that's up here. The. Prohibit surveillance data to set prices and wages. [01:21:21] Speaker B: Limiting the use of. [01:21:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, considering the. Limiting use of automatic analysis to intimate personal data to make interferences that impacts a person's financial position. I mean, a lot of this shit is really boring. Yeah, you know, it is, you know, boring stuff. But, like, sometimes you have to, like, go through and read a bunch of laws to see what they're trying to sneak through, you know, and you have to read all of it. You, you can't just be like, oh, it got introduced and Lost immediately. That's hilarious. [01:21:59] Speaker B: I want to run on less. What's it called? Camera lights. [01:22:06] Speaker A: You can. [01:22:07] Speaker B: If a cop's not there to give you a ticket, then you shouldn't get that ticket. [01:22:12] Speaker A: Like why don't you run as, you know, a senator? [01:22:15] Speaker B: Cuz I don't have money. [01:22:17] Speaker A: You don't need money. [01:22:18] Speaker B: Yeah, you do. [01:22:18] Speaker A: Why, why would you need money? [01:22:21] Speaker B: Simple. For advertisement. Signage stuff. [01:22:25] Speaker A: Yeah, you can take in donations for your political campaign that goes to advertisements and signage. [01:22:34] Speaker B: Fair. [01:22:35] Speaker A: You can go out to your own town halls and be like, hey, I'm running for senator. You can go door to door knocking and you know, hey, I'm running for senator. You know, make yourself like a little wix website and make hey, I'm running for senator. Boom, boom, boom. Handout, you know, look little, you know, handwritten pamphlets. [01:22:51] Speaker B: I like how you added handwritten. Good call. [01:22:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that way you don't have to print nothing. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And you know, go talk to as many people as you can. Go to the mall. Running for Senate, you know, and this is who I am and this is what I believe in. And you know, you can be like, hey, here's my Facebook page. Here's, you know, this and that and just boom. And then, oh, look, I, I ran, I got in the Senate because I'm the only one that's running. [01:23:19] Speaker B: Fair. [01:23:25] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, like, I, I have to like read all these bills and it sucks. But yeah, I mean, let me see what time we're at. Oh, we're an hour and a half. We're gonna go ahead and end this. [01:23:45] Speaker B: Open borders, abolish ice. [01:23:47] Speaker A: I mean, double down on ice. You know, give them all machine guns. If you run away from ice, they're gonna give them freeze rays. We're in the ice age of America. Give them the Arnold Schwarzenegger freeze ray from Batman and then just freeze them. And then, you know, when they get to Mexico, they can like thaw out and be like, oh, hi Karamba. You know, it's like, ah, I love it. But yeah, follow me on Instagram. I don't give a Alex a truck Troni. I don't know if he has anything. [01:24:24] Speaker B: I haven't looked at my thing in forever. Trotty Wadi. [01:24:28] Speaker A: He probably has like more followers than me. Enjoy the podcast. That's all I have to say. All right, bye. [01:24:34] Speaker B: Peace.