Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Alrighty. Alrighty. Welcome back to Argue this with Alex the Truck. But with this week, it's gonna be my wife.
Tron is busy being a good dad and taking care of all that.
So, you know, you get my wife, you have to deal with it, you know, probably for next couple weeks or next couple episodes. I don't know.
We can get around to know. Get him back. We'll do that. But, you know, he. He's. He's busy, so give him some time off. Plus, I don't pay him this week.
Should irresponsible people lose their responsibilities?
Like, if you have a job and you have a responsibility at that job.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: You.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: You get fired. You know that. That's exactly how that works.
Yes, but with most everything else where, you know, you don't have a job or you don't have someone directly, you know, governing it, you know, you have to, like, screw up insanely bad to lose that responsibility, you know, but, like, there's people that have kids, and they'll, you know, do a bunch of oopsie daisies, and they'll just be, you know, handed back their kid, like, oh, you know, you have a pool in your backyard. You don't have a fence around it, you know, and your kid, you know, falls in the pool, you almost drowns. 911 comes out, revives your kid. You know, they give you a fine or something for not having the fence.
And so, like, and, you know, losing custody, your kids, that sucks. But it's like, you know, should you lose that responsibility?
Or if you have, like, a dog and you have to, like, you know, take it in to get its stomach pumped for, you know, weed again, you know, like, can you pump my dog's stomach?
You know, he ate my weed. And it's like, sir, we don't do this. Pump his stomach. Oh, my God.
And then they come back, and I don't have any money for the stomach pumping, so I'm gonna leave.
You know, they don't know that. They just gave the dog some charcoal and belly rubs.
[00:02:21] Speaker B: But I hate clients like those.
But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who the. Or what the. Or how slumpish they are. We're just here to make the kitty feel better. So if they need to be bastards about it, fine, whatever. Just let us fix your cat and please leave.
[00:02:38] Speaker A: Yeah, but, like, you know, should these people that, you know, don't do anything, you know, overtly like, oh, my gosh, you know, just like, kind of like lose the responsibility? Just get the fuck on out of here. You know, you did something to where, if this was a job, you'd lose that job.
But not exactly criminal. You did call for help when it was necessary.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: We have a small percentage of patients that come in because younger children are given responsibilities to take care of the animal. And when they're negligent with that, sometimes it can make the animal sick. So I see that a lot. And that is like, it's always just kind of like either a, the child understands and the parent understands and doesn't happen again, or they're like, oh, my bad. And then they keep letting the kid kind of sort of take care of the animal.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, you know, like, I've met homeless people that have a dog, and they will do everything in their power. They will go without eating just to make sure that dog eats. I'm like, yeah, you're. You're. You know, you're a responsible person. You know, you have.
You know, probably be easier for you if you did not have that dog.
But.
Yeah, I mean, like, do you think homeless people should have dogs?
Like, let's go there.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: So Purina is part of Sapirina, runs a program called Red Rover, and it's specifically designed to take in people who are, like, escaping abusive situations with guaranteed care for their pet. Like, because some shelters will be like, no, you can't have the animal, but the shell. But Red Rover is like, yes, you can bring your animal.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: That's actually pretty cool. I like that.
You know, let's see how easy it is to, you know, get a Red Rover pet protection do it all platform.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: No, you have to go through it, I think through the Purina website, actually.
[00:05:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Mike, this is something completely different.
RedRover.org Bringing animals from crisis to care.
Oh, Emergency veterinary assistance grants. Assistance for housing survivors, pets.
[00:05:36] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: So, like, yeah, this is domestic violence.
[00:05:41] Speaker B: Yeah, because like, a third of, like, there's, like, a strong percentage. I don't know the exact percentage. Like, they stay in the abusive situation.
If they leave, they can't take their pet with them.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: Come here, mom.
Yeah, hop up.
Yeah.
I mean, not. Yeah. Not everyone has, like, a, you know, great time, but yes. RedRover.org if you are interested to donate.
And I'm like, how do I. Like, you know, like, if I needed access to this, how would I get access to it?
FAQs.
Oh, you probably have, like, go to, like, a vet and, you know, talk to them about it.
Yes, yes. What kind of pet housing product?
I know.
Oh, rebuild, rest. Okay. Yeah.
So, yeah, it Seems like you have to, you know, actually be in a thing.
Can you let me finish? I know, yeah, it's gonna be a quick episode and then we can, you know, give you a bunch of kisses and, you know, I'm gonna collect around from you right now. Come here.
There.
You're unemployed.
Just bring cuteness.
I know.
So, yeah, that, that, that's cool.
You know, and if you use like these programs, yes, you are proving yourself to be responsible.
But all in all, you know the question.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: If you can't afford to take care of a pet, you should not have a pet. And if you really love your pet, really love your pet.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: Well, like, you know, what about like, you know, rich people that are like, yeah, I can afford to take care of my pet and they just like neglect their animal like all the goddamn time, you know, like, oh, I'm gonna have the nanny look of, you know, my, my poodle, you know that like the, the dog gets, you know, food and everything.
[00:08:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Pet sitters are a whole different thing.
[00:08:31] Speaker A: It's like, you know, should, you know, there be like an organization that steps in and says, hey, you, you don't get to, you know, have an animal?
[00:08:44] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it's like one of these, like, you know, crazy things that courts don't want to touch. Most people don't want to touch.
But I'll go up and, you know, have a strong opinion about it.
If you are going to be irresponsible and you don't want to, you know, take care of your kid, take care of your pet, take care of, you know, your responsibilities in general, you should lose, you know, access to those responsibilities.
You know, after, you know, someone comes and talks to you, you, you know. Yes. You know, sometimes, you know, one instant will happen and you know, you shouldn't lose everything after the, after that. But if it's like continuous non stop, like, oh, this happened and this happened and you know, my kid is in the ER again because, you know, this and you know, he's not in the major sports. He just, you know, fell down and broke his wrist and he, you know, plays video games all day. It's like, okay, you know, your kid keeps on getting hurt, you know, CPS should step in and speak, okay, dude, you know, we're gonna remove the kid and you know, kind of see what's up or have some way to monitor really what's up.
But yeah, I mean, all in all.
[00:10:15] Speaker B: There'S not enough manpower in a foster system is really fucked up.
[00:10:20] Speaker A: I mean, you Know, not just like, you know, it's pets. It's, you know, hey, take care of your fucking car.
You know, put new tires on there.
You know, you keep on, you know, crashing your car because you're responsible. You shouldn't have a driver's license.
[00:10:38] Speaker B: You know, I'm not going to sit here and disagree with you.
[00:10:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that. That's a, you know, big done. You know, the government does step in and, you know, say, hey, you've been in too many accidents. You don't get to have a license again.
Sorry. Tough.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: No, that's how it ought to be.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: You know, like. And that's how it should be for everything.
You know, jobs, you know, you get three, you know, chances, boom, you're gone. You know, driving, you get a few chances, you know, raising a kid, you have to really up.
And I'm glad that there's, you know, CPS and all that to, you know, take care of kids. But there's no protection for animals. None, zero, Zilch. Like, you know, it has to be an insane, like, Michael Vick level of bullshit for, you know, anything to step in.
You have to, like, piss off, like, so many people on the Internet that, you know, you have a vigilante come to your house and, like, cave your head in with a baseball bat.
So, yeah, I mean, honestly, just really applies to pets. And I'm glad that there's stuff like Red Rover out there to, you know, kind of, you know, keep the, you know, necessary things going. But I don't think Red Rover nearly does nearly enough because. Well, yeah, domestic abuse situations happen way God damn. Too much.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: Only started, like three years ago. Like, it's gonna keep growing.
[00:12:22] Speaker A: What if the owner is not able.
Okay, so you can re home the pet if necessary.
I mean, yeah, I don't know. The courts will never do anything about it. You know, everyone thinks that enough is done, and this is like a deep topic to where you can really think about it yourself.
Is enough done? Should more be done?
[00:12:58] Speaker B: A client once came in and his cat was really old, completely matted, really severely neglected. But we realized when trying to conversate with this dude, there was definitely there was something really wrong upstairs. And so we did our. So basically we sedated a cat. I shaved it, did our best to kind of get it feeling better. And then when the client left, we actually called for a wellness check on his house, and so it was done. And he was actually taken into a facility. And the cat went into the shelter. And one of our employees, she went out and found the cat and brought it back. And so for the rest of the cat's life he just lived with us, which wasn't maybe like a year and a half. He was a sick old man but he wasn't gonna die in a shelter.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: So like individual clinics like will do this stuff sometimes and like we're gonna go above and beyond. Like we really are doing everything we can.
And if that means rescuing a kitty from a shelter, that is like one of the consequences of that of that person being taken into facility needfully going out and save the cat.
[00:14:13] Speaker A: So yeah, we're gonna go ahead and end it there. Just do like a little shorty this week.
Might, might be, you know, something a little bit longer next week.
But yeah, you know, you never know.
Those are just like off the dome things I think about.
But yeah, we'll see you all next week and until then, peace.
